So where are we at in the CPRS debacle at lunchtime?
Well, you might be surprised to know no one’s too sure.
Julie Bishop may have tapped Turnbull or may not. She is denying it. It’s understandable, because anyone going in to tap Turnbull on the shoulder should probably wear body armour.
Joe Hockey and Peter Dutton may be preparing a joint ticket, or may not. I’m hoping Dutton doesn’t become deputy because, try as I might and professional as I would want to be, I just don’t understand why anyone rates him.
Connie Fierravanti-Wells resigned as shadow Parliamentary Secretary, if anyone is still counting.
Coalition MPs are desperately trying to work out how they should vote, given the fury from party members over this week’s decision to support the CPRS. Joe Hockey used Twitter to invite people to tell him what they thought he should do (an impressive act for a putative leader). Bob Baldwin rumoured last night to have resigned, but still in the shadow ministry issued a survey today. If I could I ask you to respond to the following questions so that I can be better informed when I have to make a final decision on the Carbon Pollution Reduction Scheme/Emissions Trading Scheme in Parliament on Monday, it began…
From: Baldwin, Bob (MP)
Sent: Friday, 27 November 2009 12:20 PM
To: undisclosed-recipients
Subject: Bob Baldwin’s CPRS/ETS Survey
Good Morning,
I am emailing to understand your views on Climate Change and the CPRS/ETS,
If I could I ask you to respond to the following questions so that I can be better informed when I have to make a final decision on the Carbon Pollution Reduction Scheme/Emissions Trading Scheme in Parliament on Monday.
1. Do you believe that Climate Change is caused by Human created Carbon Emissions Yes/No
2. Do you understand the CPRS/ETS (tax) and it’s impacts on our Nation? Yes/No
3. Do you think a CPRS/ETS (tax) will stop global warming Yes/No
4. Do you support the introduction of a CPRS/ETS (Tax) Yes/No
5. Do you require any further information on this matter so that you can make a better informed decision? Yes/No
Name:
Address:
Thank you for taking the time to respond,
Regards
Bob Baldwin
Listening Locally – Fighting Nationally
The bills themselves, the little – or actually not so little – package of legislation that has caused the Liberals to methodically pour petrol over themselves and strike a match, remains mired in the Sisyphean hell of Senate debate, with the Government-imposed deadline of 3.45pm looking impossible.
If the bill doesn’t pass, the Government will be bringing all its artillery to bear on the Coalition. It took it easy in Parliament this week, with plenty of jokes at the expense of the conspiracy theorists, but little in the way of outright comment, apart from regular praise for Turnbull and Macfarlane. But the most impressive messaging machine in Australian political history will wind up and open fire, especially when the Prime Minister returns from talking about emissions targets from Washington next week. Greg Combet gave a taste this morning at a press conference, saying that it the bill hadn’t passed by 3.45, it would show the extremists and fanatics were running the Coalition.
Extremists who welsh on deals, in particular.
But the great unknown in all this is Malcolm Turnbull. He could call a press conference at any time to declare he could no longer lead a party that wasn’t as committed to addressing climate change as he was. More likely, that massive brain is plotting some way to both cling to the leadership and pass the CPRS bills, thereby removing the immediate cause of all the anger and division in the party.
The talk in the corridors and on Twitter is of Hockey becoming leader with a strong Praetorian Guard of conservatives in order to restore a semblance of peace, and of the bills being rejected.
Malcolm Turnbull might have other ideas, and his personal history suggests he ends up winning far more often than not.
@Joe Hockey: (would be) leaders lead. Hypothetical speech by army officer to men: “I’m thinking we should attack, how do you feel about that?”
Malcolm: Just resign. The next election coalition leader is going to lose, do you really want that to be you? 🙂
Bernard, here’s a few questions for your good self:
Why are you in such a hurry to have this passed before Copenhagen?
Why haven’t you demanded to see any detail around the regulation(s) that will be imposed under an ETS?
Why haven’t you demanded to see the cost per household of the ETS proposition?
Are you saying these questions are not legitimate?; that they don’t require answers?
I find it hilarious to see who you deem “Extremists”, when the AGW Believers Squadron are shrieking that we are all going to boil, drown and sweat to death if we don’t DO SOMETHING NOW.
That there’s 24K Comedy Gold I tells ya.
You know I like this wait till Copenhagen thing.
Waiting is an option MPMama?
Wait is what we have been doing.
Here’s an exercise for you MPMama ass, go for a walk up a glacial valley and put a peg in for each year -see it has receded like warnies hair it has and it is trackable. you don’t have to be Dr Karl. Then put a nice pink one where you think no more waiting – time enough.
Perhaps Jesus will return for the Liberal party and the Christians and leave the rest to their deserved disbelieving hell. Me I not so sure we can wait, as we burn oil and coal like it is a right of freedom.
Sure see what all the other kids marks in the Global warming class hand in and just like we australians, pitch ourselves just bellow every other kid.
If Global warming was sport, we would set the bar, not duck it.
Yep Mama it is gonna hurt. It is going to be extreme, and one day when you have to buy the “let them know its christmas album 7” from iTunes, you can pat yourself on the back knowing you did some good for the starving b_ggers in asia and africa.
Yes it will effect every household, if it hasn’t effected you yet, get out more.
-0r you could just wonder what might have happened if we as a country as a partner in the world as a people could have done here and now. Wonder if rather than fiddle with regulations we united, no? that can’t happen, can it. Malcolm is done for. Pity he was just getting good. Looked like global player with form.
No need to really worry you will be dead before it gets really bad, itn’t that not comforting at least
time for my lay down afternoon nap. Nitey night
MPM – While i’m with you on the ‘AGW Believers Squadron’ I somewhat stunned by your questions to BK.
Answer(s) – very specifically, to have created that which we see before us.
Think about it, MT and JB gone, TA and his uber loons frightening the nation into thinking all Libs are an extension of the far-right of the Christian Republican movement/party and JH (Labor’s choice) leading a divided dysfunctional rabble to as much effect as Brother Kim did.
Read this morning of ‘Kev 27’, it will be that long (not that I personally mind!).
I take it Malcolm and Ian will stand shoulder to shoulder with Kevin and Penny at the next (double dissolution) election, defending the CPRS against the Neanderthal camp of climate deniers in the coalition. Ah, the fragmentation of Conservatism in Australia is such a beautiful thing!