As Google takes its first defiant stand against a Chinese regime determined to block its search engines from accessing restricted content, the web monolith now seems set to fight the federal government here on its plans for an internet blacklist.
Google will challenge communications minister Stephen Conroy on the effectiveness of the planned filter and his claims that it won’t impact web browsing speed, the company has told Crikey. A submission will be put to the government next month.
In China, Google willingly censors content to operate under the communist regime — a practice it now wants to review in the wake of last week’s email hacking scandal. Under the Australian plan, restricted content will be blocked at the ISP level — whether Google’s crawlers find it or not. The web giant is “concerned”.
“Google Australia and worldwide is obviously watching the government’s filtering regime proposal very closely,” a spokesperson said. “Our current plan is to look more closely at the technical feasibility of filtering. We’ll be participating in the debate on filtering in the coming weeks and months. If passed, we will look at the details of any legislation.”
Google will argue the scope of content proposed to be filtered is too wide. In a blog post written in December, Australian policy head Iarla Flynn branded mandatory ISP-level filtering “the first of its kind amongst Western democracies” and “heavy handed”. Flynn wrote:
Some limits, like child pornography, are obvious. No Australian wants that to be available — and we agree. Google, like many other internet companies, has a global, all-product ban against child sexual abuse material and we filter out this content from our search results. But moving to a mandatory ISP filtering regime with a scope that goes well beyond such material is heavy handed and can raise genuine questions about restrictions on access to information.
Flynn says the Australian filter would be unique as a mandatory framework. Germany and Italy have mandatory ISP filtering but for a limited range of sites (child-abuse material, and in Italy unlawful gambling sites).
Google told Crikey it wants “more light shed” on the technical trials, to which it wasn’t party. It’s particularly concerned about the “potential impact on speed”.
“The government’s own technical report states that someone with competent technical expertise could probably get around it. Filtering should only be seen as one part of any effort towards protecting people’s online experience. We believe that education and police enforcement is vitally important,” the spokesperson said.
Conroy is standing by the pilot program, conducted by independent company Enex TestLab. His office told Crikey it demonstrates a filter can be applied with “negligible impact on internet speed”.
“Telstra undertook its own testing that showed the impact on internet performance would be 70 times less than the blink of an eye. This is consistent with the findings of a pilot of ISP-level filtering in New Zealand and the experience over many years of ISPs in a number of Western democracies including the United Kingdom and Canada,” a spokesperson said.
As for division within Labor on the plan (Crikey reported last week back-bench Senator Kate Lundy is pushing for an “opt-out” alternative), Conroy simply says the legislation will be “considered” by caucus. Lundy lamented she believes a mandatory filter has majority support within the party.
I support Kate Lundy and especially Google.
Keep it Coming Crikey. Don’t let up. Give us as much information as you can get your hands on regarding this matter. Conroy has not been elected to tell me what I am to read, or not. Illegal gaming sites – yes Child porn – yes. BUT THAT’S IT!
This is a tricky bit of proposed legislation – how much do the Senate members really understand? Well, they’d better understand this – we, the voters WILL NOT stand by and watch the Government tell us what we can and cannot learn about. No siree!
Lesley Archer
NSW
This proposal is the thin end of the wedge for censorship of any media content that “Big Brother” decides is not for our general consumption. This infrastructure will facilitate censorship of any topic at the whim of any government bureaucrat or politician. If you want an example of how this censorship power is misused look at China. Imagine what would happen if Tony Abbott became the “Chief Information Minister” as the head of the “Ministry of Truth” (Apologies to George Orwell)
Some 50 years ago narrow bigoted religious minded individuals were trying to stop us from reading Lady Chatterley’s Lover, and it took a tremendous amount of public backlash and protest for this censorship problem to be resolved. The situation we have now is even more pernicious. Secret lists of topics and subjects will be able to be prothisscribed at the push of a bureaucratic button without any recourse as you will not know what you are not allowed to see. Topics such as euthanasia in relation to which politicians pander to right-wing lunatics could easily be suppressed without our knowledge. Whilst ostensibly these controls are designed to control internet pornography, it is more likely that this is a more pernicious project to control the political landscape in terms of discussion. Nothing short of a complete and open disclosure of the banned information will ensure that these proposed controls are being used for the appropriate purposes. It should be necessary to get a Supreme Court judge to issue a formal order in relation to the banning of the information, and this information published in the daily law lists, with the opportunity for objectors to be heard.
However as it is reasonably well-known that porn freaks and geeks are unable to get around these controls one is forced to the inescapable conclusion that these people are not the prime target, but that this is an excuse to allow corrupt politicians to control the information landscape. The recent response from Sen Conroy’s office does nothing to dispel any concerns s in relation to potential political censorship.
If Google already filters out child porn from its search results, then the chances of anyone not interested in same accidentally coming across same should be vanishingly small. Those in the know who don’t need search engines and use the Web stick out like a beacon anyway and the ‘net regularly provides a game/set/match trail back to paedophiles (one being picked up in Canberra just this way in the last week or so). And filtering doesn’t do anything to stop peer-peer traffic, which I understand is where the really nasty stuff is.
So what is the filter supposed to add to this? Nothing that I can see. Which begs the question, what is the real agenda??? Paranoia is definitely justified…