Rundle responds
Guy Rundle writes: Re. “On Rundle and the Right” (yesterday). In yesterday’s letters Glen Frost took me to task because I allegedly completely misrepresented Margaret Thatcher’s abolition of the Greater London Council in the 1980s. Frost suggests that Thatcher got rid of the GLC because “the public were sick of them” and because they were the “looney left” and everyone knew it, just like wot the newspapers said. Well this simply proves my point. Thatcher abolished the GLC because London voters continued to elect left-wing mayors and administrations — and she wasn’t enough of a democrat to try and win the elections themselves. Frost has simply proved my point.
Off to war we go
Michael Kane writes: Re. “The lie that puts you at risk as Abbott wraps himself in the flag” (yesterday). So we are sending more troops to Iraq, a decision that defies logic on military, ideological, or geopolitical grounds. Once again Australia is attempting to train one military element of a failed state, some thousands of kilometres from our shores, in a mission that has already failed in the past. This is not our fight and never has been, like most of our overseas ventures. But we risk much domestically through decisions such as this. It reflects an Australian fantasy about Western power and influence that needs to be consigned to the mythology of the previous century. Of course this is where our PM’s head is with his imperial view of Australia; sadly other elements of the Coalition and the Opposition do not have the courage to oppose such archaic nonsense.
Our political, military and socio-cultural future lies clearly in our immediate surrounds. We need a foreign and defence policy that matches our real interests which concern China, India, Japan, Indonesia etc — try them for size. Multicultural Australia has always been about being a new Asian nation, prosperous and democratic. We now have three times the population of 1945, and for the last several decades people have come to this most southern of Asian lands to participate in building such a nation. We don’t need to revert to medieval crusades either overseas or here; at best it is a dangerous distraction and at worst seriously undermines our future.
Richard Middleton writes: Hello Bernard. You did not mention once in this article the support given to ISIS-Daesh (doesn’t Abbott love that phrase?) by apparent Western allies in the region. It is well established that they are being funded, supplied and transported by Sunni Sauda Arabia and Qatar, with much of these resources going through the porous Syrian-Turkish border. Western forces appear to have been very inefficient with some of their supply drops, placing weapons and ammunition onto know Daesh positions, accidentally, on a few occasions. It is well known in the area that Israel and Turkey are both looking after the wounded from Daesh in their hospitals, then sending them back out to terrorise and murder anybody, particularly Shia.
Many facets of the “horror” of Daesh are both well stage managed and leaked by well known Western/ Israeli propaganda fronts. The authenticity of some of the publicised and brutal crudeness (but not the ultimate murders) is questioned as a well planned exercise to, as you say, evoke a righteous knee jerk reaction from Western countries … the same countries who, incidentally, are dropping mutilating and murdering bombs and drones onto people around the world. But our motives are different.
One can reasonably and easily come to the conclusion that Daesh, who appears to have morphed from al Qaida (a known western affiliate, useful to keep the terror index high) and various (Western-backed) factions destroying Syria, are all part of the Brooking Institutes well known plan, “Which Path to Persia?” which maps the way to do exactly what we see now, a way to destabilise and destroy through out the regions. Colour revolutions and all. Daesh is a long planned, false flag operation run by the West, aimed ultimately at Iran, via Syria. Russia of course, is also in the crosshairs of this evil lunacy. The aim is global hegemony. It could lead to WW3.
Well said Richard!
I didn’t know about the Israel/Turkey medical involvement, but am not surprised. What a bunch of hypocrites are the USA and other western nations, including Australia.
Guess we all sit around and wait for our defence personnel to return home in ‘boxes’. How does our revolting PM plan to explain that?
To CML, Richard & Michael – if you haven’t seen it. Here is an article which details the ties between Israel & ISIS.
Including Israel/ IDF offering medical support to ISIS militants.
Israel/ IDF conducting tactical meetings with ISIS on the Israeli/ Syrian border region – the Golan Heights.
Even Israel/ IDF acting as the ISIS “air-wing” by attacking Syrian positions and even killing an Iranian military adviser working with the Syrian military.
This is a conspiracy – but it is not a conspiracy theory, it is a Conspiracy FACT. It’s a shame our Western Media chooses to ignore these facts and keep the narrative they want going. It really does nothing for democracy.
http://yournewswire.com/un-proven-ties-between-isis-and-israel/
http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/.premium-1.630359
(Israel’s most respected newspaper).
UN reveals Israeli links with Syrian rebels
Reports by UN observers in the Golan submitted to 15 members of Security Council detail regular contact between IDF officers and armed Syrian opposition figures at the border.
Yes – in case you were wondering – “Syrian rebels” is a synonym for ISIS in this case – and most others. It is cognitive dissonance to argue that the US/ Israel/ Saudi Arabia/ Qatar/ Turkey et al are funneling weapons and arms into the Syrian opposition and this isn’t going to ISIS.
Serious cognitive dissonance. Some would also call it wilful ignorance or outright stupidity.
Additionally, and I’m posting this here partly out of posterity’s sake, there is talk that there will be a major terrorist provocation committed surrounding the ANZAC Day commemorations in Turkey next month.
It might not be on the actual day, but given the volume of Australians & NZers in Turkey during this period it may even be in Istanbul on a surrounding day.
Either way – it is not great for anyone travelling over there.
The atrocity will be blamed on ISIS and used as leverage with the populations of Australia & NZ – and indeed other Western nations – to get more involved in the fight against ISIS in Iraq – and Syria.
Where is all this coming from? Turkish security forces. The Turks are well aware of the plotting going on, and indeed – could stop this atrocity from occurring. Why wouldn’t they? Aren’t they our allies?
Well yes – they are our allies – but they are also motivated to find a way to bring US & Western pressure to bear to force the removal of Assad from Syria. This has been a longstanding Turkish Foreign Policy goal that has gone nowhere for years. This could be their opportunity to force the West into taking decisive action.
It is not just the Turks. Elements within the US administration also have the removal of Assad as a central goal of policy in the region. Any atrocity committed against innocent Westerners can be leveraged to force public pressure to “do something” to facilitate the removal of Assad will be used – and may well be allowed to happen, even encouraged.
And where does Australia come in? Well, we are steadfast allies of the Americans – and if tens or hundreds of Australian citizens were murdered in Turkey by ISIS there would be tremendous public pressure on Australia to get involved and avenge their deaths.
The final decision hasn’t yet been made by Turkey about whether to allow this to happen. There could be substantial blowback if it became widely known that Turkey allowed or even encouraged an attack that killed tens or hundreds of citizens of an “ally”.
We should be wary of trusting Turkey and Turkish security forces to look after the wellbeing of Australians next month though. Given the prestige the celebrations are being held in, it is in fact more likely any attack will take place somewhat away from Gallipoli so it won’t be directly connected.
In any case – if I were an Australian I wouldn’t be going anywhere near Turkey in the next couple of months.
I only hope the Australian security apparatus are willing to put out an appropriate warning to Australians travelling to Turkey and not get blindsided by “following procedure” and “not wanting to offend our allies”.
That kind of attitude may needlessly cost Australian lives.