
There is something wrong with the ABC’s democratic novelty, Vote Compass. There must be, because since its inception, this “whom should I vote for?” quiz has whacked me in the Greens quadrant every time. This makes me sore, as I am about as likely to ever vote Green as I am to afford a life in a suburb that is full of people who name their daughters after sexually liberated French modernist writers.
Actually, that’s an input the ABC’s psephologists should really think about including in their test: “Have you seriously considered calling your child Anais?” would be a more accurate means to align a voter with the Greens. As would “Do you have an unread copy of Thomas Piketty’s Capital in the Twenty-First Century sitting on your reclaimed ladder bookshelf?” Without such data, the outputs for the leftist voter will continue to be just (upcycled) garbage.
But we can’t blame the algorithm. We can’t even really blame the ABC. The policy questions posed by the quiz — roughly “do you support income and social equality?” and “do you believe that our species has become a monstrous geological force?”– are the same questions posed by the Greens. The problem is that these are largely the wrong questions to ask. Even, and especially, if you happen to be the kind of voter who will answer “yes” to each of them without hesitation.
[Poll Bludger: major parties collude to stonewall Greens]
I am this kind of voter. I agree that we are headed to hell in a hand cart that runs on unsustainable fuel. I agree that nationalism is a hateful contagion, that economic inequality will cannibalise the state and that a treaty with indigenous Australia can only produce good dividends all ‘round. I am opposed to metadata retention. I am appalled by the irrational rationalism of offshore detention. I have often been critically disappointed by the ALP. FFS, I am a queer, unmarried, disabled woman who huffily left the Communist Party for feminist reasons in her teens and never returned. Fine, Vote Compass gets me. I should not simply be a Greens voter but a lifetime Greens member with a Samoan-inspired tattoo of Bob Brown etched on her arse.
But I’m not. And this is not entirely due to the current possibility that the Greens will trade preferences with the Libs or that they may have done so in state elections of the past. This is not entirely due to the Greens support for their deal with the government on pensions, their stubbornness and myopia on the ETS and the fact that Larissa Waters is a cultural totalitarian who will not rest until all evidence of gender is purged from the shelves of our toy stores. It’s not my revulsion for fashionably named children or the tastefully rustic surrounds in which their Green-voting parents raise them. It’s not even the reclaimed ladder bookshelf; it’s more the Piketty that rests upon it, whether read or unread.
Personally, I have made my way through about half of Piketty’s tortured data-gasm. This, by the by, is apparently above average. A scratch analysis of the those who purchased history’s best-selling work on economics found that no one much made it past page 26. But they kind of got what they paid for, because any assay beyond that will just reveal that Piketty, like the Greens, is interested only in making noise about inequality. When it comes to disturbing inequality at its foundation, he is every bit as chic, and every bit as useful, as the Greens.
Spare yourself the trouble of Piketty. Just buy the book, as I did, to remind yourself that you are one of those consumers who thinks that inequality is really, really bad. If you do read it, you’ll just have a graph-hangover and perhaps the vague sense that Piketty, who uses the ideas of wealth and capital interchangeably, is being a bit opaque. Perhaps because he wants to hide the fact that he is recommending only minor changes to the economic organisation of the world.
Buying Piketty is like buying a Fair Trade decaffeinated organic coffee. You get no real buzz, but you feel like you’ve done something civic-minded. Even though you really know you haven’t.
Which is pretty much like voting Green.
[Labor versus the hipsters? The inner-city campaign cools down]
This election, as in previous elections, the Greens policy reads very much like the liberal compassionate documents of the World Bank. Which is to say, the party sounds very soothing in its acknowledgement of serious problems, but offers no surprising solutions to these, and seems to believe that it can benchmark its own success.
The Greens say “inequality is really, really bad” and speak urgently of change. But they provide no real prescription for the big shift they say, and I agree, is needed. The optimistic leftist might choose to believe that this is because they are cleverly concealing their red flesh. This pessimist believes they are honeydew melons: a mild shade of green right through. Even those who came to the party by way of classical Marxism seem to have paled, believing only the most convenient and optimistic bits about an innovative new era of production.
It’s true that the Greens provide, for some of us, a refreshing enticement. On the issue of offshore processing, for example, it’s tempting for some of us to throw a protest vote their way. But so long as they choose not to disturb our social and economic organisation, there will always be a group as maligned as asylum seekers. Inequality is really, really bad. It’s also inevitable if you don’t take a hammer to its foundation.
And they don’t. The Greens’ focus is not on constituting our base differently. It’s about reflecting it more favourably. It’s about taking “gendered” toys off shelves, lighting compassionate candles and generally moralising about those who won’t publicly agree that inequality is really, really bad.
It’s communism. But without the caffeine, or the communism.
It sounds like, come election day, you will have to resort to the cop out of putting your blank ballot paper into the ballot box. Have you not heard of the concept of the “least bad option”? You sound like some of the fundamentalist Greens who, if they can’t have it all, don’t want any. Ironic, really, given what you had to say about how the Greens skewered the ETS under Rudd.
Alternatively, if you vote 1 Socialist Equality Party and put the Greens next, they’ll shrug and say thanks for the vote. As will Labor if you put them higher. For a progressive, that’s the only meaningful choice right now (at least in the lower house) – Labor or Green? When it comes to that, I’d be pretty gobsmacked if someone who positions themselves to the left of the Greens chose the ALP, to be honest.
Yep. I know a lot of Greens voters, and not one of them ventures the opinion that capitalism is so much of the cause for the problems they so easily identify. The Greens have become a middle-class outlet for vague dissatisfaction, bourgeois to the hilt, and as about as useful as a wooden spoon at a ditch-digging contest.
So Peter, I gather a Liberal voter would have a silver spoon, but what would a Labor ditch digger take? A how-to manual?
Spork?
Your ‘What is this? The Guardian?’ comment is looking a little ridiculous, given the poor quality of this comments thread, which you seem to be encouraging.
Nah, the Lib takes a hi-vis vest and a Channel 9 film crew and leaves after 1 minute, and the Labor stooge brings a concrete truck and crew and tries to bury the Green in it.
If the the Greens split into two groups, radical reformists and radical reactionaries, they could fight with each other in public. Such noise would air everyone’s concerns, earning them more publicity and more voters than they get today.
So it’s beat up the Greens day ? Last election 1,116,918 people gave a first preference vote to the Greens – double the Nats and nearly as much as the total “Liberal National Party” (i.e. the Qld Libs/Nats) vote, and this time round I fully expect more people to vote Greens. The ALP and LNP are tweedle dee and tweedle dum.
Disclaimer: I’m a long time Greens member. People can make comments like those that precede this, but if you look at Green’s policies over the long term, they are the ONLY party with a clue.
Interesting that you bagged out the greens for not offering solutions (which is a tad off) but that you didn’t offer anything either. In fact you did just what the Tele did – say all these nasty things so that people won’t vote for them. This piece slots right into the current Greens bashing orchestrated by scardy cat Labor and rest of them. The Libs will be loving this ‘lefty’ hate-in and you feel right into it.
Ooops. Must have forgotten to link to the solution: https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1867-c1/
But Helen – I’ve read some Marx and I don’t think it’s the solution, it’s an analysis, but it doesn’t offer the solutions – in fact I think the 20th century Marxists theorists also think that Marx alone is not the answer nor offers solutions to the current issues. The Frankfurt school, had a lot to say about that as did Stalin. Revolution is one thing but so is real solutions to issues of wealth (what to do about money and credit – see what happened in Russian when Lenin outlawed money)? desire (how does individual differences sit within a ‘marxist’ society? Who makes decisions across the community (the workers parties certainly stuffed that up) what does the that process look like? What to do about technology? I could go on. But they are all questions that Marx / Marxism struggles to answer in the current context. It’s one thing to have an analytical framework, another to work out the solutions. I think rather than bag the Greens for their cultural positioning, perhaps you could suggest some more real solutions for today – besides shooting the lot of them (i mean shooting the rich, the owners of capital and ideology) or reading more Marx / Capital? Looking forward to your response.
John. I was joking. It’s actually illegal to be a classical Marxist these days, I believe.
My point is (and you guys, I did read the Greens’ very comforting policies, or, more accurately, positioning statements) that the party proposes no change at the foundation.
The Greens are a party of social constructivists. They believe in the primary power of discourse. The greens are a party of compassion. They believe that if we care enough, then things will change. Their policy is scored over with these beliefs. The need for “representation” and “respect” is centrally articulated. Talk on reorganisation of wealth takes second place.If people recognise their moral obligation to be better, say the Greens, then we’ll have a better world. We can see this clearly in a number of policies, notably in that on Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples. It’s big on “constitutional recognition” and “treaty”. It’s short on land.
There are plenty of thinkers who assert the need and describe the terms for a structural shift. I would say that most of them *have* read Capital, though.
Why should the Greens have policy about reorganisation of wealth. I am a member of the party and I believe rightly or wrongly that our philosophy is ordinary (normal) social democracy with a conventional economic approach according to evidence but that capitalism must operate according to the limits of the environment. So yes work hard, make money but not at the cost of the environment and making the world uninhabitable. If the Liberals were real conservatives people who care about standards. they would be the sort of people who would want to leave the world in better shape than how they found it, A real conservative would deplore waste and there is so much waste in our economy. A real conservative would recycle, mine only what is really needed. A real conservative would want integrity compassion and fairness at the top of their priorities. So if you like the Greens are the real conservative party. And your last comment about constitutional recognition and treaty is so wrong but too complex to go into here. I just had to say something because your article was so superficial and so may cheap shots. The Greens are not in government and are just as much a lobby and they are entitled to simply be critical but on the other hand they do have some fantastic practical policy regarding urban development and renewable energy and these policies are down to earth practical and costed.
I’m pretty sure Marx answered all this in Critique of the Gotha Program 😛
Just reading it now, thanks for pointing it out.
For someone who can’t get through Piketty, it’s amusing to see you glibly throw in Marx.