It’s fair to say that no one who understands the basics of international relations believes that President Donald Trump also understands how they work. His latest statement — sorry, tweet — that “talking is not the answer“, regarding tensions with North Korea, is a glaring case in point.
Trump’s threats and “show of force” over North Korea’s missile testing, now with B-1B Stealth Bomber flights over the Korean Peninsula, only puts the world back in the position it was a few weeks ago, prior to what appeared to be a winding-back of belligerent rhetoric.
North Korea’s recent missile launch over Japan was a not an unexpected response to the US’, South Korea’s and allies’ war games, which, though annual, were intended as a “show of strength”. The war games don’t, and can’t, replicate what war on the Korean Peninsula would look like, given that South Korea’s capital, Seoul, would come under heavy artillery bombardment, and there’s a high likelihood that nuclear weapons would be quickly employed on both sides.
Apart from having been contradicted by US Defence Secretary Jim Mattis, who, when asked if the US was out of diplomatic options, simply said “no”, Trump’s view that “talking is not the answer” implies that anything short of a back-down by North Korea will be answered by “kinetic” responses.
Yet short of total victory — in North Korea’s case, and possibly that of South Korea, read: total annihilation — wars are always ended by some form of negotiated settlement. That means that, at some point, talking must be the answer.
It is unlikely that Trump has the personal capacity — or now the space — to move without looking very foolish, to start addressing the drivers for North Korea’s escalation of its nuclear and missile programs. But that is what is required.
North Korea has heavily invested the leadership of Kim Jong-un and his key generals in the country’s nuclear and missile programs. Expecting they will be abandoned is tantamount to suggesting that Kim and his generals abandon their totalitarian grip on North Korea’s long-suffering population. That is unlikely to happen in the foreseeable future.
It seems hard to imagine now, but a decade ago North Korea actually agreed to abandon its nuclear development program, started for domestic energy purposes. This agreement came out of six-party talks with South Korea, the United States, Japan, Russia and China, in which North Korea agreed in principle to abandon nuclear development in exchange for nuclear fuel, other aid concessions and moving towards the normalisation of relations with the US and Japan.
However, the North Korean launch of a missile in 2009, which it claimed was to put a satellite into space, led to condemnation by then-president Barack Obama and the UN Security Council, and an increase in trade sanctions. North Korea responded by pulling out of the talks and, within days, had tested a nuclear device. The situation has deteriorated since.
The ascension of Kim Jong-un to the presidency of North Korea, following the death of his father, Kim Jong-il, in 2011, was marked by an unusual level of insecurity. Jong-un purged more than 200 proteges of his father’s brother-in-law, Jang Song-thaek, who had assumed the position of vice-chairman immediately following Kim Jong-il’s death, and North Korea’s second most powerful man. Last February, Kim Jong-un had his half-brother, Kim Jong-nam, murdered at Kuala Lumpur International Airport, removing potential rivals for leadership.
In this, Kim appears to have been either acting closely with or under the “guidance” of a group of hardline generals. This group of generals is now heavily invested in furthering the nuclear and missile programs, which is represented as a key means of legitimising their totalitarian rule to the North Korean people.
Coming from such a build-up of mutual mistrust and belligerence, the question now is how to re-start the six-party talks, or something like them. In this, China is central, as the only country that the North Korean leadership even vaguely listens to. This is not about getting China to threaten North Korea or impose more sanctions, but to actually start talking about a constructive way out of the current impasse.
It’s a very long way from where the situation is now, to where some form of positive dialogue could start to take place. But it is increasingly critical that process be at least started. The alternative does not bear thinking about.
So, despite Trump’s tweet that “talking is not the answer”, talking is indeed the answer. Indeed, it is the only answer.
The US needs to talk with China about engaging in some quiet diplomacy with North Korea, in effect promising North Korea to make it worth while for regime leaders to slowly move towards talks aimed at support and, ultimately, normalisation.
The Korean War began in 1950 and, despite an armistice in 1953, has never formally ended. Perhaps it’s now time to work towards that as a final goal.
*Damien Kingsbury is Deakin University’s professor of international politics
Trump has at no stage even hinted at aggression against anyone. Those not only vocally threatening but actually committing aggression with their war rockets are the Pyongyang goose-steppers. Appeasing aggressors only makes war inevitable. The world learnt that (yet again) in 1939-45. It is right of Mr Trump to make it crystal clear that if goose-stepper aggression crosses a red line there will be massive retaliation.
“Trump at no stage even hinted at aggression against anyone.” Are you mad? Or didn’t you notice that Trump very loudly threatened Pyongyang with ‘fire and fury and frankly power like the world has never seen’ if it continued testing ICBMs (and similar threats besides)? More to the point, exactly what red line did Trump make crystal clear? He can barely utter a coherent sentence, let alone convey a crystal clear thought. And if you’re mean to imply that the an attack on US territory or military assets is that red line, then you just worked out what Pyongyang’s red line is too. The arrangement even has a name: mutual deterrence, i.e. the mutual threat of massive retaliation. Meanwhile, it was Trump, not Kim Jong-un, who defended the goose-steppers in Charlottesville. Sauce for the goose and all . . . .
A military attack on another country that has not started a war with the attacker is aggression. A military attack in return is retaliation. What Trump has threatened is retaliation in the event of a war rocket hitting the territory or coastal waters of America or its allies. This is neither threatening nor committing aggression. It is threatening retaliation. The only threat of aggression was the threat to fire a war weapon into the coastal waters of Guam.
Trump’s ambivalence over Charlottesville did not threaten aggression against any country. This ambivalence was disgraceful in that it equated the traitors who went to war against their elected government to perpetuate racist slavery with those who defeated them, but it had nothing to do with international aggression or international retaliation which the standoff with Pyongyang is about.
As for goose-steppers, recall the footage of North Korean military, in uniform, displaying massed, disciplined goose-stepping along the street in Pyongyang. The last city that was treated to such a display by a murderous dictatorship was Berlin. Not Charlottesville.
No, Dion, you’re wilfully confusing conventional and nuclear, aggression and retaliation, territorial and economic sea zones, and regimentation with fascism.
Kim threatened firing medium-range conventional missiles into waters 30-40 miles off Guam (crucially, outside Guam’s 24-mile sovereign territorial waters), while Trump responded with an implied threat of an all-out nuclear first strike (as would be required for any hope of preserving the 30,000 US troops in South Korea). ‘Retaliation’ means like for like. Responding to a conventional demonstration with nuclear obliteration would pretty much be the definition of ‘aggression’ (to say nothing of ‘absolute batsh*t craziness’), wouldn’t you think? As for Kim commanding comical military grandstanding versus Trump endorsing actual homegrown fascism, the only question is, what the heck is your moral compass oriented to? Kim merely inherited a dead-ass broke, internationally maligned, militarily desperate totalitarian regime, lashing out on its last legs. Trump is doing all he can to turn the American democratic republic into one!
No confusion, wilful or otherwise. Mr first two sentences spelled out in plain English the difference between aggression and retaliation.
The defining characteristics of fascism which way go way beyond mere regimentation and made made it so repugnant to the world as to sustain scores of millions in war against it in 1939-45 are not econowonk definitions but
# its totalitarianism
# its violent muzzling of dissent
# its denial of democracy
# its personal cruelty
# its militarisation and aggression
The goose-steppers in Pyongyang tick all those boxes as did Hitler and Musso. Even the fifth box, with firing war weapons over Japan.
Retaliation doesn’t mean like for like in extent. It can apply to repaying an aggressive military incursion (like nuking the waters around Guam or firing war weapons over Japan) by blowing the aggressor to kingdom come. Trump has threatened to blow the Pyongyang goose-steppers to kingdom come if and ONLY if a North Korean missile hits the USA or one of its allies. That’s not aggression but retaliation over an act of aggressive war.
Nobody is “nuking the waters around Guam” for xrissake… do try and read what is written and keep up. Thank god careless people like you are not in cha .. …. oh, ooppssssies … ferrrgeddit..”
Is it not true that North Korea pulled out of talks with US when with civil nuclear tech for power was not delivered as promised?
And do you forget that Monkeyboy called North Korea part of the (ludicrous) ‘axis of evil’ in 2002? What would you have done?
God help those you teach.
Errata “… help with civil ..” Damn, no EDIT button.
The media at the time were reporting that the goose-steppers had said they were preparing to send a NUCLEAR missile close enough to Guam that the local people were being instructed about how to avoid being blinded by the nuclear flash. That would be aggression no matter how many centimetres would separate Guam from ground zero. Small wonder the Yanks were telling them any war weapons landed on or near US or allied territory would bring massive retaliation. It worked: the goose-steppers stood their plan down and war was avoided.
What has to be asked is where the goose-steppers are getting their hardware and technology. The Nazis ruling post-coup Ukraine have been mentioned. Anyone know? Google “North Korea Ukraine” for assertions and denials. Also “Nazis Ukraine” for wartime and modern background.
I have often wondered why Crikey publishes the Human Headline’s self advertisements but t least he is one of … err.. us, kinda-sorta.
Why it publishes Kingsbury’s crib sheets straight off the fax from Langley VA is a greater mystery.
Look where talking’s got Trump (and his US) so far?