The ABC describes its program Q&A as “democracy in action”. We cannot be sure that Cleisthenes of Athens would agree. I can’t be sure if you agree, but I did take a straw poll yesterday while preparing to review last night’s episode, and found that six out of seven democratic Crikey readers did not much care to even talk about this show.
Sure, the survey had a sample size of seven, was hasty, and did include my dad. Dad was the only survey respondent who said that he usually watched, “But only because it helps me know what you were angry about last week, Blossom” (Yes, my father calls me “Blossom”. It’s lovely and appropriate. Shut up.)
One interviewee said, “I’ll watch it if I’m a bit sloshed, and fancy yelling at something slightly less fluffy than clouds.” Another reported, “It’s a bit like a mug of warm Ovaltine, but one made with skim milk.” I am not sure what she meant. Perhaps that the contents of Q&A were sleep-inducing and thin.
The thing that seemed to trouble all Crikey respondents was that the program has the appearance of “respectful debate”, but, in fact, permits broadcast of very few new ideas. I, too, feel that it is not “respectful” to us viewers to produce a “debate” that approaches the same topics from the same perspectives every week.
Last night, Q&A could hardly have been more Q&A. Billed as a “debate” and timed more tightly than usual, this episode, which only spoke of same-sex marriage, was boiled down to its noisome essence. Which is to say, it said things that have been already said and said.
Of four panellists, only one would be directly affected by a change to the Marriage Act, which seemed a bit unfair. Then again, what would Q&A be without an obvious injustice to irritate from the outset? Comic actor Magda Szubanski did a fair job as informed activist, but there certainly are LGBTIQ activists better informed. “This isn’t just out of the blue,” said Szubanski of the movement for marriage. “It comes within a historical context.” In fact, the history of LGBTIQ activism in Australia had very little concern with marriage until around 2009. Before that, it was all barely reported kids’ stuff like rights and health and housing. Not all these problems have been addressed, and it is quite wrong for Szubanski to identify marriage as a finale, long awaited.
Still, she has done more serious time as an advocate than compelling curiosity Karina Okotel. As Crikey has reported, this preacher for the No case has emerged from nowhere, aka Melbourne’s leafy south. Apparently, she has experienced great bigotry for her courage. Okotel’s argument is no more complex than those you have previously heard: we should be “free” to vote No. Which we are. Still. Yes voters are unpleasant, and everyone agreed that we should all be pleasant. In the world of Q&A, all social change should be pleasant. Notwithstanding that it never was nor ever could be.
Two Christian clerics spoke. One for Yes, one for No. When either of them tried to say anything interesting, as God’s No man did when he proposed, even if cynically, legal protection for all sorts of partnerships, not just the romantic ones, Tony cut ’em off. The Catholic guy was for Yes, very decent and probably keeps a portrait of our best Pope, Francis, in the presbytery.
Szubanski was tempted into “you’re not the boss of me” rhetoric, but of course, this is a legitimate case to make generally against the plebiscite. Though, she might have thought before demanding of Okotel, “How would you feel if Sri Lankan people were told you can’t be married?”. Okotel was born in Australia.
In short, this was peak Q&A, or would have been only if (a) Cardinal Pell had made an appearance in his fanciest raiment and (b) Paul Capsis had closed the show with a moving torch song, while dressed in a similar outfit.
It is, I decided, precisely because of the program’s dependable nature that it remains popular. Like a lot of formulaic things, including sitcoms with laugh tracks, the appeal of the current affairs panel show lies in its familiar nature. Predictable jokes produce predictable giggles, predictable debates provoke predictable responses. Predictably, no one truly watches. And the serious is made trivial in this old mug, and we can all get some predictable sleep.
I hope I can still call my daughter Possum when she is in her 40s.
Blossom
I can’t watch QandA because of the number of times it has aired unopposed transphobic comment. Apparently Magda did ok, which is nice but the airing of outright prejudice as debate is far too much for me. Watching this train wreck of a program masquerading as debate is akin to torture.
Some fair points made, Helen. I watch sometimes but am regularly warded off by the presence of any government minister. The best shows are the panels of scientists,writers or academics, no politicians in coo-ee.
Helen, please give us your ‘new idea’ : what Q&A alternative do you propose whereby public debate can be aired?
Without Q&A we’re left with nothing – not in the ABC programme lineup & certainly not ever on commercial TV.
Honestly? I think it would be as simple as a true commitment to balance, not just an “equal number of minutes for all the political affiliations we have decided are meaningful”.
This show is not and could never be a place for truly public debate. Like talkback radio with its carefully selected callers (or, just anyone ballsy enough to call in) this show is not “real”. It is a sample, in its questions posed by the public, only of what particularly riled up people think. Rather like media itself. One way to ensure questions are broader and more randomly sourced would be to seek them out. Not wait for them.
Mostly. Not so many middle-brow intellectuals on the panel. Some actually decent thinkers for a change. Perhaps a host who is trained to acknowledge their own bias or limited world view.
We have plenty of decent moral and political philosophers to help them work out the kinks that prevent inclusion. We just need an ABC willing to actually serve our curiosity, not our half-tanked Monday night need for distraction.
Still, it’s all we have from the ether and the coalition conservatives hate it so it has a redeeming feature. We badly need more satire, piss taking and scorn for the one dimensional robotic politicians we see and hear in the media. A new Rubbery Figures would be a great start.
Helen you were right to pick up Szubanski for implying that Aussie-born Karina Okotel was Sri Lankan, (and therefore perhaps just a teeny bit less entitled to have her voice heard?) You could have mentioned that Szubanski herself was not born in Australia. She’s English-born. Aussie Muslims are used to that. Two Aussie hijab-wearing women from my family were criticised loudly in a suburban train for “coming here and trying to make *our* women change the way they dress.” Turned out, when they tackled him, that the loudmouth was English.
I understand that live TV is unforgiving, and that Szubanski probably felt under the pump. She didn’t say, “Go back to where you came from”, but it did seem to be an unfortunate moment of weaponised identity.
We can do this. I know that I sometimes put on my poshest ABC radio voice when enraged by someone sexist with a more ocker accent, for example.
I guess what we saw was that a member of one cultural group up against it will not always show great kindness to a member of another. If there is an advantage to excluding someone on the basis of their identity, we might use it if we feel that we are in danger.
I have interviewed Magda a few times, and can say that she is charming. I am sure that she regrets this moment. We all regret this moment in general, though. It’s a terrible thing to be debating about peoples’ lives. Which Q&A permitted, and with no more care, really, than anybody else.
Sort of my point. This creates ugliness. Which masquerades as “respectful debate”.
I do not think Magda meant that in an offensive way. I thought she was just saying imagine if you were denied a basic right because of an irrelevant characteristic, like being left-handed or a diabetic. Many first-generation Australian proudly refer to the nationality of their parents. I would not be offended if someone were to say “imagine if Greeks were not allowed to marry”. I can tell the difference between that and when a person holding an original of my NSW birth certificate asks “Did you have a driver’s licence in your own country?”, the answer to which is”Five Dock is my own country, you idiot”.
I didn’t see the show but all the commentary suggests that Szubanski had the upper hand over Okotel. Your point is good about live TV though. I imagine everyone who appears on live TV would have a few “oh no why did I say that?” moments
I’d like to give my opinion on Q&A, but I watched Lewis instead. I always do. At least it makes me think (though I can never remember what).
As for Blossom (no I won’t shut up) – it’s very nice. Certainly better than Possum (pace Campidg), given what possums do. It suggests a certain paternal innocence – as though he suspects you grew on a tree. Appropriate, you say. What – fallen woman?
What the hell have you got against possums? I got a brushtail in my tree – never had a more pleasant neighbour (apart from the bare-eyed corellas and sulphur-cresteds).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLwGfoybuPw
Your brushtail is in your tree rather than your roof, which is definitely in its favour.
I got him a box, put some of his bed in it, and sealed the roof during the wee hours.
But he will not eat the Ovalteenies.