The enormity of the disaster created by Scott Morrison’s submarines decision is now becoming apparent — as is the fact that, no matter who wins the coming election, the colossal mess is going to have be cleaned up in the next term of Parliament.
Yesterday Malcolm Turnbull, who signed the now-binned deal with Naval Group in 2016, forensically took apart his successor’s decision. He pointed out that we now have no submarine program of any kind, the lack of a sovereign capability in relation to nuclear-powered boats that have to be maintained overseas, the lack of evidence around the ability to simply let a reactor using highly enriched uranium run without servicing for 35 years, the better safety standards of French nuclear submarines (which Australia spurned), the years-long delays that the decision will inflict on our naval capacity and, in particular, Morrison’s trashing of Australia’s reputation for fair dealing — and trashing it with France, which is both a major European power and a Pacific power.
Morrison had damaged Australia’s national security with his deception and betrayal of the French, Turnbull said.
As a frequent critic of his successor, and as the man who signed the Naval Group deal with the Macron government, Turnbull could be expected to say such things. But he was followed up by Greg Sheridan in The Australian today. Sheridan explored the inanities of the decision (such as why the British are in the mix), the problems of trying to build the things ourselves, and, most of all, exactly how long Australia could realistically wait for its new generation of submarines to be operational. Sheridan suggests more 2061 than 2040.
Pretty much anyone who’s a significant contributor to this debate is likely to be dead come the 2060s, having left it to another generation to solve the problems created by Morrison’s decision.
But some of the problems identified by Turnbull and Sheridan will need to be addressed a lot earlier — by whoever is prime minister after the next election, be it Scott Morrison, Peter Dutton or Anthony Albanese.
The key problem to resolve is the tension between building a significant part of the program (at least 40%) in Adelaide, and the mammoth costs and delays that that will entail. The Coalition currently trails Labor by 17 points in 2PP terms in South Australia, so there’s no political possibility of this being resolved before the election.
But after the election, the next government will have to decide whether it seeks to accelerate the proposed nuclear submarine deal by purchasing ones fully manufactured elsewhere — likely Virginia and Connecticut — rather than in Adelaide, or resolve the problem of having museum-piece Collins class vessels defending Australia in the 2040s and 2050s. What are the odds of an off-the-shelf submarine buy in the interim, to fill the gap between the 2030s and the 2060s?
Whoever is PM after the election will also need to start rebuilding Australia’s reputation, particularly but not only with the French. As Turnbull points out, Australia now has an international reputation as untrustworthy. Who would enter a major defence deal with Australia — or accept Australian commitments on free trade, or emissions abatement — without being aware we could break our word on a political whim, that all our promises amount to nothing?
Scott Morrison is poorly placed to rehabilitate Australia’s reputation, and not just because he was the one who damaged it. As is surely apparent in other capitals now, if it wasn’t before, Scott Morrison lies routinely, over matters large and small.
He was busy assuring the French that the Naval Group contract was going ahead, and that there were no problems with it, right up until the AUKUS announcement. And he assured the Biden administration that he would properly communicate the AUKUS announcement to Macron — rather than sending a text a few hours before, leaving the Americans to have to clean up the mess with the French.
That’s all of a piece with Morrison’s enthusiasm for lying constantly to Australians, usually about his own words and actions, rather than his opponents. Morrison is a man you simply can’t believe and can’t trust. Emmanuel Macron now knows that, and is unlikely to forget it — which is presumably why the government’s strategy to restore relations is to hope that Macron is defeated in next April’s presidential election.
A Dutton or an Albanese would be better placed to start rebuilding Australia’s reputation — and to make the tough calls that will be needed on a major gap in our defences once the parochial imperatives of the election are out of the way.
“A Dutton or an Albanese would be better placed to start rebuilding Australia’s reputation”
Really? Dutton?
The man who joked about our Pacific neighbours running out of time due to climate change.
I’m not sure that Albanese could rebuild Australia’s reputation either, but surely his cabinet will be much better than the current one or what Dutton could have?
Yes, there has to be some doubts about Dutton. His two-faced performance with our Pacific neighbours is unlikely to be forgotten, even if it is a tiny thing compared to bilking the French on a $90 billion contract and everything that goes with that. But then, who would believe Dutton knew nothing about AUKUS until it was announced? On the contrary, he must have been just as deeply involved as Morrison. If he really was kept in the dark until the big reveal, he would have every reason to resign from the Defence ministry on the grounds of a complete betrayal of trust by Morrison.
Dutton in deeply – Q.E.D.
And yet, there he remains, waiting like a spider in its web to grab Scummo when he blunders for the last, lethal time.
Ooo sinister! I like it!
Not only cancelling a $90,000,000,000 contract by text, but laughing and beaming like a loon when the US President realized he had been handed a turd will long live up there in moments of when you wish you were a New Zealander.
His regard for said turd is shown by not bothering to learn its name.
A nucular turd?
He’s currently mimicking his mendacious model, the Rodent, by being apparently unflushable.
One can only hope as in the case of his time as CEO of Tourism Australia and Tourism NZ and various other bodies his “style” leads to his dismissal. His current attempt to rearrange the facts to suit an early election seems to be more like a disaster as he digs a deeper and deeper hole.
An Albanese government would have a depth of talent that the LNP clearly does not have. Wong as Foreign Minister is but one example.
And what a mammoth task faces Penny Wong when she takes over our international diplomacy!
Actually I think Albo would be just the person to make up with France (and the EU). He is a decent and honourable chap.
What about Angus Taylor, or is his name as toxic as that of Porter’s?
Biden adviser: ‘I don’t know whether Angus Taylor is an ideologue or an idiot’
Mr. Taylor’s probity and intelligence are problematical. Would you buy a used car from Angus?
A drover’s dog would be better than the current administration. Not one of them is competent.
Bernard please stop pushing the Dutton barrow. He is a genuine bad-guy who would sink Australia further into untrustworthy oblivion. If you must seek some semblance of impartiality so you can escape accusations of anti-LNP bias, cast a wider net to some LNP backbenchers or rookies. I just feel their cupboard is bare and there is nobody that has any place leading our nation within their ranks at the moment.
I don’t think he was pushing the Dutton barrow so much as placing Dutton as the most likely successor to Morrison. That’s a reasonable guess without Keane offering any opinion on Dutton’s suitability or that of any other candidate.
The Gestapotato or Fraudy – wotta choice!
But Dutton will only succeed Morrison if he loses the election. Then surely it won’t matter what Dutton says, or does, or even thinks; he will be in Opposition.
You assume that Mr. Dutton is capable of thought, Mercurial.
Out of a mire . . . and into a fire!
Wasn’t that the theme song of the operatic Buffy episode?
Spot on!
Absolute dearth of talent which does not seem to bother media nor voters…. not surprising amongst a very culturally specific group i.e. the LNP, media and corporate elites. Meanwhile Australia is becoming the last outpost for an Anglosphere nation run by predominantly ageing Anglo/Irish masquerading as WASPs against reality of diverse society and global relationships…..
Fraudy is the spider in waiting I reckon!
But Fraudy can’t count.
“In a world of global capital and competitive tax regimes, the threat of sovereign risk is poison.” said young backbencher Joshua Frydenberg in his Maiden Speech to the House of Representatives on 22 October 2010.
He continued:
“I come to this chamber with a deep interest in foreign policy and national security.
It is a passion fired by a belief that Australia has an important role to play in the world. Our geography is a strategic asset. It sets the stage for all our thinking.
Located in the Pacific region, our strategy must be to broaden and deepen our ties with Asia.
Asian engagement must be a national endeavour. It is where the opportunities lie.
Genuine commitment in Asia requires immersion across all areas of public and private sector life—commerce, education, diplomacy and people to people links. Building our foreign language competency is an important element in this.”
Alzheimer’s has clearly set in early. Either that or he never meant a word of it.
“Alzheimer’s has clearly set in early. Either that or he never meant a word of it.” – How about both.
I’d go with the latter.
He is Morrisons deputy as the Governments major liar, although he has competition!
I suspect that Frydenberg has a trace element of conscience, which is why he looks as though he may vomit as he stands telling lies too.
To say what one means and mean what one says requires an an inherent integrity & probity utterly beyond Fraudy’s skjll set – he’s more the messenger boy (the ONAnist report to Blot) than an independent actor.
MORRISON told such Dreadful Lies,
It made one Gasp and Stretch one’s Eyes;
Aussies, who, from their Earliest Youth,
Had kept up some Regard for Truth,
Attempted to Believe the PM:
The effort very nearly killed ’em,
And will yet do so, if they don’t see
Morrison’s gross Infirmity…
Apologies to Hilaire Belloc. Of course in his original poem the liar – significantly named Matilda, could that be a nod to Australia? – finally suffers a dreadful death, unable to get any help as her house burns down because nobody believes her. Morrison in contrast has wrecked the reputation of the whole nation.
Mark twain said “There are three kinds of lies: “lies, damned lies, and statistics.”; Now there are four Kinds ” lies, damned lies, statistics and Pinocchio Morrison lies and surely the worst one of all “Pinocchio Morrison lies”.
A day or so ago, another poster (Ms Lamington?) quoted his Mr Blood’s Maxim gun lines from his poem, the Modern Traveller.
France has nuclear submarine’s and colonies in the pacific; in addition I understand that the subs we WERE getting could be easily converted to nuclear. The stupidity of ScoMo in going for ANZUS Mark 2 (ie consultancy only – worth nothing) and a bad break with mainland Europe is a huge Fail in our Foreign Relations behaviour.
I suspect this was another brain fart that is going to cost us big for the coming decades and damage our credibility in the adult world of politics, not forgetting the increased ire of the most powerful nation to be.
He was just desperate to get Porter off of the front pages.
The subs we were getting were nuclear subs, converted to diesel electric. The biggest issue with the French SSNs is that they need refuelling every 10 years, something not needed with the current US/UK reactor technology. Getting French SSNs would dictate building a full on nuclear industry in Australia.
My tip: We’ll pay through the nose for these subs. Twice. Or even thrice. We should if any sanity prevails go for the UK Astute class boats. They are smaller, dive deeper, are faster, and most importantly need a significantly smaller crew. The UK build of these boats is almost complete, so we ask the UK to just follow on with 8 more. That’s once. We might have to help pay for extra capacity in the shipyard at Barrow-in-Furness so the Poms can start building the Dreadnought class boats to replace the Vanguard SSBNs. That’s twice. And then to bridge the capability gap we could lease several soon to be retired Los Angeles class boats from the US. Refuel and refit them and then commision them into Australian service with several US officers and sailors on an exchange posting to teach the RAN how to drive a nuclear boat. That’s thrice.
Nuclear power produces electricity so the sailors already know that part because that’s what the diesel power did.
Yes, but they are used to making electricity with a diesel, not a giant glow in the dark kettle. Kettleology, and it’s associated engineering skills, is the bit they’ll need to learn
I dispute that Australia would need to develop a further nuclear facilities or industry than the one we have at Lucas Heights.
The French subs could be sent for “re-fueling” in the French territories or France itself.
At least we would not be buying a container of weapons grade unranium, to have distributed around the world/ Australia’s harbours, possibly attracting the odd terrorist.
The Astute may be the reason Britain is involved. Would France be willing to share its nuclear secrets with us anyway? Would the US be willing to have its nuclear tech in French boats?
I did email my MP with questions like this, but all I got back was the press release, ignoring all the hard stuff.