Tim Ferguson writes: Excellent piece from Robert Lechte (“Superannuation doesn’t need reform — it needs replacing”). Super hasn’t worked for us, a middle-aged couple who worked and raised a family for over 25 years while wondering what improved flavour of baked beans we will be eating on our 50th wedding anniversary. Our super has definitely worked for others though.
It is so disappointing to watch our society greedily devour each other’s hard-earned wealth over the past decades. We are better than this — at least, I used to think so.
Lindsay Leake writes: I am an 82-year-old pensioner, own my home and car, have some cash in the bank and am living comfortably. I have never liked the concept of superannuation, considering it to be lower-middle-class, biscuit-tin economics, where there are biscuit tins on the mantlepiece with labels designating which expense the woman of the house has to meet, and when dad comes home he hands over his pay packet and is given a small allowance.
The concept that a sophisticated society is where everything has to be privatised is being seen as unworkable. We need to insist on having governments that govern for the good of the people and not rely on ideology dreamed up by people who believe in fairies — or worse, crooks.
Penny Hackett writes: The superannuation system was supposed to minimise the cost of the age pension. Instead it has become a tool for intergenerational wealth transfer, supported by a massive subsidy from the taxpayer. It’s a boondoggle. It would be fairer and less costly to give everyone the pension, give rent assistance to those who don’t own their own home, and let the income tax system sort out the rest.
John Neuling writes: What a nonsense article. Our super system is designed to complement the age pension and allow all workers to retire with some comfort and dignity, and once contribution levels reach 12%, and a large proportion of the population have had super for most of their working lives, this goal should be achieved. Issues regarding the underprivileged should be addressed separately by the social security system, and do not provide any reason to dismantle a great retirement scheme, now holding more than $3 trillion in assets for Australians.
Richard Davoren writes: I had the potential to do well out of super; for a public servant on the “old” scheme, the retirement benefits were attractive. The downsides emerged quite early in my career. I was constrained to remain with my employer or lose my benefits. So I was saddled with a restricted future. As time passed I saw many financial opportunities and, eventually, I cashed in my superannuation to invest in real estate. At that time Paul Keating took a 15% slice of my funds. Obviously a tax intended as a disincentive to draw cash.
I made the right decision in hindsight. But my wife’s maiden aunt cashed in her super to pay a house deposit in retirement and forever remained in poverty, whereas she would have done far better had she not taken the cash. My wife had compulsory super taken out, and well before she retired was advised that the government super scheme’s opt-out insurance policy had sucked her balance dry during her non-employed final years before the super could be drawn on.
Improved wages would be better overall for individuals and the economy, with superannuation to be a choice taken only by informed investors. A better pension scheme for the not-so-wise would have more merit and fewer dramas.
Richard Clements writes: I have said this for years. It’s the biggest con foisted on Australians since the Vietnam War. All it did was create a superannuation industry that has skimmed billions of dollars from people’s policies. It’s a tax haven for the super rich and there is no guarantee — like in 2008 when some people lost almost half their super overnight with the sharemarket crash. The average payout on retirement is about $200,000, which means you can’t live off it and have to go on the pension for which the whole fucking thing was designed to prevent! Give me strength.
Jim Moore writes: Lechte is persuasive (and prolific) but ultimately misguided. Superannuation doesn’t cause inequality; it merely mirrors inequalities that exist, and which exist for myriad reasons. Inequality is better addressed by tackling those reasons than by targeting superannuation as some sort of panacea. You can’t solve housing affordability by allowing fund members access to their savings to contribute towards buying a home, and you can’t address the other issues raised by Lechte by tinkering in other ways with the superannuation system.
In some ways Lechte’s argument is a throwback to the same arguments in the lead-up to the introduction of the superannuation guarantee system in 1992. Then, if I recall correctly, ACOSS argued that the system was inherently unfair because it allowed some people to put more money in (in absolute dollar terms, not per cent of income terms) and to get more out at the end.
To suggest the system is flawed because some people do better out of it than others is a mad argument. If you work in an office, look at the person sitting next to you. They may have more or less than you in their superannuation fund, and they may as a result enjoy a better or worse standard of living when they retire. That’s not a failure of the system; it’s because they earn more or less than you do or because they make greater or lesser contributions to their funds.
Inequalities in society can be addressed by mechanisms to pool and redistribute wealth, such as the age pension. If the age pension (or other such mechanisms) is inadequate for this purpose then it is those things that should be changed, not the superannuation system.
Margaret Ludowyk writes: Lechte claims that our compulsory super scheme is a disgrace and should be scrapped. He bases this on the failures of the scheme at the bottom and the top end. I agree. Super should not be used as a wealth creation vehicle for high-income earners, and those on low incomes and with little super need more support. But for most of us in the middle, compulsory super is fantastic, enabling us to retire with dignity and security.
As a divorced woman, I worked until just short of my 70th birthday and retired with my modest townhouse virtually paid off and with a super balance of about $390,000. Not a huge amount but with a part-aged pension I’m living comfortably. I would not survive on the aged pension alone. Without my super I’d be miserable and stressed and bored.
Of course a universal basic income scheme would be a lot more equitable, but rather than scrapping our super scheme we should tax excessive balances of wealthy people, tax super balances over $1 million (indexed) when the person dies, tighten tax-minimisation loopholes, and increase or supplement the age pension for those who don’t own their home and for those with no super.
Labor’s compulsory super scheme is precious for most of us and has provided a comfortable and stress-free retirement for the average Aussie worker. Never scrap it.
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Don’t scrap super, fix it.
Get rid of the boondoggles for the rich and increase the aged pension. And all welfare payments.
I’m a woman in my mid 60s with a super balance of 240k.
I will use it to top up the aged pension and am looking forward to a reasonably comfortable retirement.
I also own my own modest home.
Agree, thank you, I thought the article was simplistic.
Rather than ‘top up’ the aged pension, your Super income will result in it being reduced – as designed.
I agree. Super is part of income and to get the Age Pension, any payments as either drawdowns, pensions plan or lump sum will be factored into Centrelink’s assessments.
The biggest con foisted on the Australian populace since the Vietnam war was the ‘dismissal’, or less euphemistically, the coup performed by the Queen’s (and CIA’s) man.
Whitlam upset the apple cart with his staunch representation of us plebs, regarded as livestock by the parasitic ruling class. It doesn’t seem to matter what we do; the scum always win.
Or perhaps the biggest con, foisted on just about the whole world’s plebs, is that human dignity, or the sustainability of our civilization, or anything you’d think should be really important, matters a damn to the ravenous filth devouring our future at the speed of forgetting.
Super’s been good to me – all going well in the next few years, it will support self and hubs to continue with the lifestyle we’ve been enjoying as empty nesters. And we achieved that goal on working class incomes. We’re pretty financially responsible, but if it hadn’t been for the compulsory part, it would have been too easy to dip into it if it was our own discretionary savings during the expensive child-rearing years. Watching the growing balance encouraged us to contribute more, even if only a token amount in some periods.
John Neuling made one of the most wrong comments. Our super system is NOT designed to complement the age pension. It is NOT designed to allow all workers to retire with some comfort and dignity. Contribution levels reaching 12%, and a large proportion of the population have had super for most of their working lives, does NOT guarantee that “this goal should be achieved”.
Keating carefully forgets the fee-gouging and occasional financial collapses (such as 2008 and since) that he ignored when designing it.
Not least it now costs taxpayers as much as the Age Pension for 2½ million people despite saving the Budget virtually nothing in Age Pension costs. Women typically have much lower balances, on average 64% less than men’s.
It makes a fortune for financial advisers, executives, and shareholders. Indeed, given the fabulous fees and charges long levied by the industry, Keating literally created a complete industry of parasites.
On current projections, the mature compulsory superannuation system [now with $3 TRILLION in capital – $3,000,000 million] will have only a modest impact on future age pension eligibility, augmenting rather than replacing the age pension, while still leaving a large fiscal gap.
I hate to play the man, but who is Robert Lechte? What’s his professional background, experience, prior advocacy? From a quick google there is little on this twitter profile, his personal website is down, and his advocacy website says absent details about its backers.
Is Crikey now letting unvetted people contribute articles? Likewise today’s edition has a Jordan Peterson’ like defence of the Afghanistan government by another first time writer. It’s very strange.
Yes, my question too. This is a very big topic to tackle, it’s complex, short and long term.
I also find it very strange.
Hi, author here. Happy to answer your questions.
I’ve been writing and advocating about this specific topic for a number of years now, purely driven by an interest in a fairer Australia.
The campaign doesn’t have any “backers”. This is a grassroots campaign by me and a number of fellow concerned citizens with similarly pro-egalitarian views.
Robert, you’ve not answered the questions at all.
Writing and advocating on this topic…why? What do you gain from that?
What are your qualifications? For whom do you work? Your cv would be useful, as without an understanding of your background, you have no logical claim for credibility.
Thank you Richard for responding. I certainly have respect for those seeking to engage in public debate from evidence based analysis.
I would highly that financial market policy has been host to several other “grassroots” campaigns by the likes of former MP Tim Wilson and other, not just of super but other reforms like FOFA. So just be aware that there is heightened scepticism for new groups where their origin is not well known.
Thanks for your piece Robert.
I agree heartily with your views.
I couldn’t care less what qualifications you have. Happy to assess your arguments on their merits.
Will endeavour to contact you.
Cheers.
Agree, there are literally hundreds of potentially more informed contributors. I actually spoke with him via Twitter regarding his former IT employment with the ACTU, he explained that it was several years ago.
In my opinion the article was neither analysis nor expert, but seemed to echo messaging and talking points of the right that sometimes emerge to nobble superannuation, SCG increase to 12%+, described as a tax on business etc. by focusing on past and present issues while ignoring solutions and future demography; whiff of PR?
I thought the same thing. Has Crikey been taken over by Fox news?