Last year, CNN decided to reposition its news coverage as more “centrist”. In doing this, it joined The New York Times in wanting to be a news outlet — in the words of journalist and podcaster Ezra Klein — for everyone.
Such moves by globally influential outlets reflect a desire to rid themselves of biased or extreme content that turns political opponents into enemies and destroys the ability of democratic institutions to function — and they should be welcomed. Indeed, if they help slow or stop America’s democratic decline, Australian media — which is busy being factionalised and/or corporatised — should do the same.
The argument goes like this. The media plays a critical role in democracy, not just by shining light into dark corners but by showcasing those who model what democratic discussion looks like. When experts who make their case clearly and passionately while treating their opponents as just that — opponents, not enemies — citizens in a democracy learn by example how to keep the tone civil and use reason to play the ball, rather than merely insulting to belittle.
This is not, to state the obvious, the role the media has played in America, Britain and Australia in the past decade and a half, where dismissive and flippant rhetoric has replaced respectful and reasoned argument. We no longer know how to remain calm and marshal evidence in service of a cause; instead we act like babies, accusing the other of bad faith and disloyalty — and even threatening cut-off or exile — to make what feels challenging go away.
This is not just when opposing sides of an argument are present in the same forum, but even — as has increasingly become the case — when we’ve retreated to our own partisan silos. Within such spaces, “experts” model a moral superiority over those with whom they disagree — often when they’re not even in the room. And why should they be, when we’ve condemned them implicitly or directly, as “immovable, brainwashed, of bad faith, not worth the energy, disloyal, repulsive”, or what Australians would shorthand as “hopeless”.
This is the death knell for democracy, which at its heart requires persuasion rather than violence to achieve change. But persuasion is highly skilled work, requiring the recognition and marshalling of valid evidence and the deconstruction of poor logic, all the while treating one’s opponent as what Martin Luther King Jr called a “somebody” — a person worthy of our curiosity, compassion, kindness and respect.
Contempt is a killer of the foundational trust and respect required for all functioning relationships, and the connections between citizens are no different. The mainstream media’s move back to the centre represents a rejection of such toxic modelling of democratic contestation, and it should be encouraged.
However, it’s important to note that the balance model, used injudiciously, has its own risks: most notably, the “bothsidesism“, described by Jay Rosen, which we saw most toxically in the climate debate, where the expert consensus about the dangers of climate change was disguised and undermined by corporate shills and media-hungry scientific contrarians.
We also saw it in CNN’s repeated description of the new Israeli government’s attempts to overrule High Court decisions it doesn’t like as “reforms”.
Of course, experienced and responsible editors should know the difference. If they don’t, they have no business holding such a democracy-critical role.
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Much the same is argued recently by Rory Stewart in a short BBC podcast series The Long History of Argument, From Socrates to Social Media. It has been repeated on ABC radio. It’s a persuasive case, and I agree democracy depends on listening to those you do not agree with. The unanswered difficulty with Cannold’s, and Stewart’s, plea not to accuse the other of bad faith and disloyalty is the possibility the other is absolutely acting in bad faith and really is disloyal. The USA’s Republican Party is not concerned with democratic politics these days, except where it can use it seize control. When that does not work, it uses non-democratic means. Reponding to that with a decent and principled adherence to the principles of democratic debate is likely to see democracy, such as it is, fail and collapse.
There is no room for compromise on either Left nor Right in the US precisely because decency is dead. Both the Dems and the Reps are only interested in remaining in office and will do whatever they need to do to achieve same.
The ‘both as bad as the other’ suggestion does not stand up to any scrutiny. The Democrats are not always perfect in following all the principles of democratic conduct, and occasionally poor, but that is a million miles from the consistent assault on democracy, the constitution and the rule of law that is the essence of Republican politics.
What “consistent assault” do you refer to by the Republicans?
Bollocks and you still haven’t answered my question.
Aside from a single action where some nutbag “Activists” took over the Capital Building on Jan 6 (similar to “protestors” taking over the Legislature in HK – such actions supported by both the Dems and Reps BTW) the Republicans have done nothing in reality to warrant your claims. Trump didn’t concede defeat in the Election? Big deal. He doesn’t have to.
Court challenges to election results? Both sides in every election do this (remember the Hanging Chad case brought by the Dems?). Supreme Court decisions? Both sides appoint Judges that represent their views as vacancies arise. The SC killed Roe v Wade, not the Republicans.
The Dems are intolerant zealots just as much as the Reps are intolerant zealots.
The Republicans now hold a majority in the House as well as 26 out of 50 State Governments so the people of the US must think they are doing all right. Biden is a lame duck President and is slowly coming apart. Kamala Harris is useless to say the least (not that a VP does much anyway).
Going to be interesting now that Biden has committed the same crime as Trump. Let’s see if the House goes after him as vigorously as they did Trump.
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Charming and civil as ever, aren’t you?
Arguably the modern malaise in US democracy begins with Nixon, who used traysonous methods in 1968 to derail his opponents and so took power, then was caught some years later with his dirty tricks department but got away with no more than resigning; judged by what has followed, resigning was his worst error.
Since then there has been a consistent and committed effort to gerrymander in every state Rapublicans control, and to exclude huge numbers of voters who are seen as at risk of voting Democrat. Other barriers to voting are out up for partisan purposes. This has been remarkably effective, giving Republicans far more representation in Congress and the Presidency than a plain count of votes would justify. The American system does not depend on the popular vote, of course, of course the Electoral College and the bias built in to the Senate have both been there from the start, but even so these results arise from anti-democratic measures taken over recent decades and are unlike anything seen before (with the exception of the Jim Crow rules that operated in Southern States until the 1960s).
The corruption of the judiciary has been equally effective in giving the Republicans another weapon to suppress democracy. Partisan court judgements at all levels are obvious. The most blatant must be the Supreme Court deciding in 2000 that since Al Gore of the Democratic Party had won the vote, the Court would have to cancel the vote and award the presidency to Bush, so correcting the voters’ regrettable error.
The all-out war against the Democrats if, despite all this, they win power can be traced to Newt Gingrich, who put a stop to any attempt to find consensus. Sabotage and trench warfare at every stage has been the Republicans strategy ever since, which again is blatantly anti-democratic as it shows zero regard or respect for anyone elected who is not a Republican. The quite mad pursuit of Bill Clinton stood out at the time, but now looks like normal politics.
In parallel with all this is the great work done by Fox News and similar outfits, whose purpose is propaganda and destabilisation to undermine democracy any way they can. The method was beautifully summed up by Steve Bannon when he said they would ‘flood the zone with siht’.
All this was elevated to a new level by Trump and his supporters, who in practice and sometimes openly regard anyone who does not support Trump and vote Republican as a tray-tor. It would be easy to add so much more but I don’t imagine you are listening.
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Keep your insults to yourself. At least I answer. Thanks for that BTW.
Back as far as Tricky Dicky? Really? The Dems were every bit as bad as the Reps IIRC in 1968. Illegal surveillance and recordings weren’t the sole province of the Reps BTW. Johnson was a long way from being Saint LBJ.
The Judiciary is “corrupted” by both parties. The Rep appointees vote with their beliefs and the Dem ones do the same. The Dems whine when the SC makes a decision they don’t agree with and the Reps certainly do the same. Both sides need to build a bridge and get over it.
Clinton was certainly hunted by the Reps just as Trump was, and still is, hunted by the Dems. Please don’t try and claim that the Dems are normally superior as they aren’t. Looks like Biden was also breaching national security eh?
Propaganda? Fox is most certainly a Righties Propaganda network but so is CNN to name one. Each side carries on like old chooks when the other side does something they don’t like.
Gerrymandering has been a part of US politics forever and the Dems have certainly participated as well. The US Constitution is so out of date
Both sides consider each other to be fringe nutbags and neither side can consider themselves morally superior.
Carter was a joke, Reagan a war monger, Bush was ok-ish but unremarkable, Clinton a scumbag, Dubya an idiot and a war monger, Obama was a complete joke and Trump a disaster. Biden is simply too old and I doubt will win a second term.
The problem is a common one though. Both sides are too one-eyed to see their own flaws.
You seem to be using a telescope to magnify the faults of the Democrats, but you look though the wrong end when you turn to the Republicans.
The rest of what you say is not to the purpose. There is nothing inherently anti-democratic about being a crap candidate or an incompetent incumbent. Pointing out that various elected persons are, in your view, no good has no bearing at all on the question of whether or not they and their party observes the basics of democratic politics.
I agree that Obama was terrible, but his greatest fault refutes your moan that “There is no room for compromise on either Left nor Right in the US precisely because decency is dead.” Obama spent all his time “reaching across the aisle” and getting his hand bitten off by the rabid mob that lurked there. Even when he had a majority in both houses he did not use it because of his disastrous determination to find a bipartisan consensus. He could not have been any more decent or worked any harder for compromise. The results were catastrophic for his party and his country because the anti-democratic Republicans exploited his foolish good faith to the full.
The rabid mob in the Reps is a direct result of past grievances and matches the rabid mob of the Dems who were out to hunt Trump no matter what. You have overlooked the various partisan activities of both the Dems and Reps also including stacking the Judiciary etc etc. The point is that both parties are as bad as each other no matter what you like to think. Tit-for-tat is the game with both and I don’t expect it to improve with Millenials entering Congress that’s for sure.
The Presidents were listed basically on their achievements and those of their parties during that term. Interestingly, the Reps have had more Presidents than the Dems yet both parties are plagued by scandals historically. Obama promptly retired in the job in reality. Job performance is what causes change at the Polls not “anti-democratic” activities by the Reps.
The Reps have moved too far Right and are bound with the Religious Right while the Dems have moved too far left in the extreme for Middle America. Each side sees themselves as fighting for “freedom and democracy” but each has a different definition of freedom. There is a reason that most Southern states are Red and that is illegal immigration as these states bear the brunt of this yet the Dems won’t listen. If you have ever spent time in the Bible Belt you will understand what I mean. The Dems stronghold is in the Northeast, California and gentrified areas of the US. Strange how the working class now favour the Reps isn’t it?
Debating appears to no longer be accepted in the modern world. It’s nothing but points scoring and who can shut someone down these days. In other words, anyone that has a different view is the enemy. Sad really as that will be the death of Western Democracy which is why I dislike Woke Culture.
Again, both sides are too one-eyed to see their faults so I don’t see any hope for Democracy. Ideology over reality never works long term.
Too far left ?
LOL.
Bill Clinton shifted the Democrats substantially rightwards with his Third Way and they’ve never come back from it.
This is the problem with trying to “debate” you. Your arguments are built entirely on fallacies.
The whole purpose of a debate is “point scoring”.
“This is the problem with trying to “debate” you. Your arguments are built entirely on fallacies.”
My point exactly. Point scoring but no actual facts just your opinion.
Very important point. Tit for tat once someone breaks bad but the key is that if they behave civilly you have to take the risk of trusting g again. There’s a great game about trust by Nicky Case that show this mathematically. Check it out https://ncase.me/trust/
Do you even reside in America?
“Trump didn’t concede defeat in the Election? Big deal. He doesn’t have to.”
Yes, he does have to. That’s the first thing necessary for democracy to have a fighting chance. Fair enough to run legitimate court cases but his were found by the judges to be spurious. How many of them actually ran? Were they all kicked out before they even had a chance to get started?
It doesn’t matter whether we sit to the left, right or centre, that’s one thing we can’t minimise or dismiss. There were PHON and UAP candidates trying to undermine the credibility of the recent federal election. Most of us were way too smart to be taken in, but you can bet your bottom dollar they is a small group of Australians who genuinely think their votes were stolen.
Please advise what law states that anyone is required to “cede” defeat? There is zero requirement for that.
Spurious lawsuits? The “hanging chad” launched by the Dems was certainly a spurious lawsuit BTW. Not willing to “cede” defeat either IIRC. Trump is a Nutbag of that I am certain but he had a legal team advising him.
I have heard zero claims of “stolen votes” in the last electiin in Australia. How do you “steal” votes in Australian Elections? Australians, at least for now, have more intelligence than you give them credit for.
The conceding of defeat in an election is not a legal requirement but refusing to do it, as we can all see, turns elections into a mob contest where the defeated candidate attempts to take power by riot and intimidation; which is illegal, except when it works. So not conceding when actually defeated is as anti-democratic as it gets. Trying the “what law” ploy to say it is all right puts you in the same camp as our Liberals who so often hide behind “no laws were broken” when they trash the conventions that government depends on.
The Republicans are currently dealing with the public officials who did their job properly and thereby obtructed Trump’s attempt to overthrow the last election result. They are being replaced with partisan creatures who, the Republicans hope, will make sure (aioded by Republican judges) the next election can only end one way no matter how anyone votes.
Why would you claim that the Democrats insistence on counting votes in 2000 was a “spurious lawsuit”? Counting all votes is an important part of the democratic process, in case you did not know.
You sort of make Woke Woman’s point for her when you hammer on the improbability of stealing votes in Australian elections. That’s what makes the efforts of some Liberals to put obstacles in the way of voting, in the guise of preventing fraud, so disingenuous and anti-democratic.
Anti-Democratic? Democracy is a way of governing which depends on the will of the people. As much as I loathe Trump, he does not have to “cede” the election and it is not anti-democratic to do so. If he had refused to leave the Whitehouse that is a different story but he didn’t. Same with Morrison.
Mob contest? Not much of a mob in reality and yet when the mob attempts to take over legislatures in other countries it is seen as OK.
Laws exist for the benefit of all Society and you don’t get to choose which ones you obey. They prohibit activities and allow certain exclusions. If no law has been broken the activity is legal. Now you are criticising others for doing legal activities? If you don’t like the laws that’s fine but don’t whinge about it. Do something about it and have them changed.
“The Republicans are currently dealing with the public officials who did their job properly and thereby obtructed Trump’s attempt to overthrow the last election result. They are being replaced with partisan creatures who, the Republicans hope, will make sure (aioded by Republican judges) the next election can only end one way no matter how anyone votes”
Evidence please.
Remember, as a number of States have new Governments, it’s not unusual to see people replaced. Everyone likes to deal with people they know and trust.
As to the SC decision to deny Gores appeal they were doing what they are supposed to. They reviewed his case and ruled against him. That is the end of the story. The appointment of Judges was performed according to the law by the sitting President when vacancies arise. They can’t sack Judges so that is the only way that can be done. Of course they appoint Judges that have similar political views, just as the Dems do.
I didn’t hammer on “the improbability of stealing votes in Australia” at all. There is virtually none however in today’s society you never know. Voter ID laws are already in place in at least one state in Australia and I have no issue with them. They don’t disenfranchise anyone in my experience here because of mandatory voting.
The reality is you need ID to do a multiple of everyday tasks in Australia and virtually everywhere else. Personally, after spending so much time in China I believe that everyone should have an ID Card. It would remove the 100 point ID check for many services and make a number of activities easier.
Simply because someone has a different perspective doesn’t mean they are anti-democratic. This is precisely one of the things I dislike about current Western Society. Attempting to discredit someone and treating them as the enemy simply because you disagree with them. Different ideas and different perspectives need to be welcomed not dismissed. To do otherwise, is anti-democratic.
To his credit Morrison conceded gracefully. The New York oaf nearly brought the country to civil war.
Democracies rely on conventions as well as laws and we need to respect both to maintain the trust and goodwill on which democracies are based.
Aside from your usual “both sides” and other fallacies, this stands out:
Not conceding defeat after an election is an extraordinarily big deal. It refutes one of the basic premises of a functioning democracy – the orderly and peaceful transition of power – and is a direct attack on the fundamental principles of modern western society.
It is not being treated seriously enough, in no small part because – as usual – the “Left” has been happy to “compromise” in the vain hope the “Right” will act reasonably.
Not a legal requirement in any way to “cede” defeat. Poor sportsmanship but not a requirement.
Never said it was.
But much like Scomo’s multiple ministries, it represents an attack on the principles underpinning democratic society.
Poor sportsmanship certainly but not an “attack on the principle underpinning democratic society”.
Refusing to accept the outcome of an election because you don’t like it is, however.
No it’s not. He accepted by leaving.
That’s certainly an interesting take on the events surrounding Jan 6.
He left before the military came and dragged him and his cronies out.
Sportsmanship? People were killed and the buildings were trashed. He should be in the slammer!
I wouldn’t take those Republican majorities at face value, Lex. A lot of gerrymandering and voting rules resulting in voter disenfranchisement went into them.
Also on Biden and Trump both having classified documents in their possession. One big difference is as soon as they were found in Biden’s possession, he invited the FBI in to search and find any others. Trump, on the other hand, had to be subpoenaed and whinged and moaned and fought it every step of the way.
The Left “compromises” all the time. That is why the economies of the western world are rooted and inequality is soaring, because of “compromises” on things like full employment, privatisation, and regulation (particularly of financial institutions).
The Right’s idea of a “compromise”, meanwhile, is something like proposing zero taxes and “compromising” to a flat sales tax.
It is not the Democrats trying to make voting harder and change the electoral system to allow arbitrary overruling of election results.
Bollocks.
The Left compromises when they have to (because they don’t have the votes) not because they want to. Exactly the same as the Reps when they don’t have the votes.
What “change the electoral system to allow arbitrary overruling of election results” do you refer to?
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/07/moore-harper-scotus-independent-state-legislature-election-power/670992/
https://www.pewtrusts.org/en/research-and-analysis/blogs/stateline/2022/03/18/contentious-fringe-legal-theory-could-reshape-state-election-laws
https://www.pewtrusts.org/en/research-and-analysis/blogs/stateline/2021/07/28/republican-legislators-curb-authority-of-county-state-election-officials
https://www.reuters.com/legal/republicans-target-judicial-scrutiny-elections-us-supreme-court-2022-12-07/
Will have a listen
And you can’t write his name Leslie. That says much about justice and politics in the Anglosphere.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/jan/23/system-rigged-inequality-pandemic-despair-super-rich
“He Who Must Not Be Named” works apparently……………………….
Shades of Rumpole.
If only it were that simple. At first glance, Dutton’s “I can’t agree until I see the details,” sounds like an opening to reasoned argument. But is it?
Democracy-critical roles have no business being subject to the whims of private interests in the first place, except that subsuming democracy IS the business…
Jane Mayer of Dark Money fame alleged that Kochs set up a media audit project called ‘Freedom Works’ (what else?) to deconstruct the media ecosystem and then reconstruct to game the same.
This included providing the right research and policy talking points, whether university academics &/or pseudo intellectuals at PR/lobbying outfits, to then sell the messages or policies to politicians/committees and media, then in turn the electorate; perfect circle.
“Of course, experienced and responsible editors should know the difference.”
It’s not just the editors who are a problem here. The problem extends to journalists with little knowledge or understanding of the topic on which they are reporting.
They should know the difference, but clearly they don’t. Isn’t it cruel to say they should be sacked? Leslie’s civility argument only goes so far in the high-stakes environment of discussing how we should be governed and what the alternatives are. Is Josh Frydenberg removed from debates on the economy because the voters of Kooyong removed him as their MP, or does he retain his place regardless of how people vote?
One way or another, no great loss in this case
Frydenburg retains his place as an Australian who can give his views as he likes. The only change brought about by losing his seat is that he no longer speaks as the representative of that constituency. He is also no longer a minister in the federal government. None of that need have any consequence for his views, what he says or how much anybody takes those views seriously on their own merits if they choose. But nobody need any longer give those views any attention only because of the power and influence Frydenburg wields, because (for now at least) those days are over. (Thank you, voters of Kooyong.)