The ABC’s Q+A program decided this week it’d be a neat idea to put this out into the world:
Critics have raised questions about whether the Voice to Parliament will mean a logjam of cases in the High Court.
For this week’s Q+A audience poll, we want to know: should the High Court be able to rule on matters of the Voice to Parliament?
Cool! Let’s put the High Court’s constitutional powers to a popular vote! Nice one, ABC. Unsurprisingly, the audience was completely confused, voting 43% yes, 41% no, and 16% unsure.
We should be used to the ABC falling headfirst into the traps laid by the reactionary forces in what passes for public debate in Australia. The stupidity of the question merely reflected one of the key pseudo-arguments being tested by opponents of the Voice: that it will inevitably lead to constitutional chaos, tie up the High Court in litigation, and strangle the ability of Parliament and the executive government to function.
The wording of the proposed constitutional amendment, which the government will take to a referendum later this year, includes this provision:
The Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice may make representations to Parliament and the executive government on matters relating to Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Peoples.
The rhetorical objection to this comes from former High Court justice Ian Callinan, writing in the Weekend Australian:
Stretching my imagination only a little, I would foresee a decade or more of constitutional and administrative law litigation arising out of a Voice.
In legal terms, Callinan’s concern, particularly that the Voice will be able to make representations to the executive, is one of overreach. While the High Court will not interfere in Parliament’s exercise of its legislative powers, other than ensuring the laws it makes are constitutionally valid, the courts will and constantly do judicially review decisions of the executive arm of government. This is in accordance with entrenched principles of administrative law.
Callinan’s point is that the Voice introduces a new mandatory element into the functioning of both arms of government — that they hear representations from the Voice before acting — and that this will inevitably lead to litigation challenging the validity of the decisions made.
Callinan has been backed by some other legal voices, mainly Greg Craven and Frank Brennan.
On the other side are a lot more voices, including former High Court chief justice Robert French, former justice Kenneth Hayne and a range of constitutional experts such as professor Anne Twomey, Bret Walker SC and the members of the expert panel that drafted the referendum wording. It has also been signed off on by Commonwealth Solicitor-General Stephen Donaghue KC.
Hayne is blunt in his rejection of Callinan’s objection, saying, “I think that the prospect of ‘a decade of litigation’ is not right. It does create fear. I think the fear is misplaced.”
On the specific argument of the executive government being tied up by litigation, Hayne explains the position clearly: “The word ‘representations’ has been very carefully chosen … what the Voice has said in its representation does not dictate the outcome of [the executive’s] considerations”.
The point here is that requiring decision-makers in government, including ministers, to take into account representations made to them by the Voice, on matters affecting First Nations peoples, is the whole reason we’re doing this. It is a “common-or-garden application of rule of law”, Hayne notes.
If the decision-maker does not consider the Voice’s representations, then their decision may be open to judicial review in the courts. However, as with any other failure to take a relevant consideration into account, the courts can only force the decision-maker to go back and do their job properly. It’s not novel, and definitely shouldn’t be alarming.
Stepping this out clearly, here is what the consequence of the referendum succeeding would be:
- The Voice, once established, would have the power to go to Parliament — or to ministers, departments and other decision-makers in the executive — and put to it representations, i.e. arguments, about things that it wants those decision-makers to consider before making their decisions on matters relating to Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples.
- Parliament can ignore those representations, without consequence, and go ahead with whatever laws it wants to make. Those laws will remain open to constitutional challenge, on the bases that have always existed.
- The executive will be obliged to take the Voice’s representations into account in making its decisions. For example, if the government is considering establishing a new welfare program, or altering an existing one, that affects First Nations peoples, then the Voice may have something to say about that, and the government must take what it says into account.
- Ultimately, the executive will retain its freedom to not accept the Voice’s representations and act contrary to them. The representations will be just one of the relevant considerations that the executive had to weigh in the balance of decision-making.
- If the executive flat-out ignores the Voice’s representations, i.e. it doesn’t consider them at all or only pretends to, then its decision will be flawed and vulnerable to judicial review. There’s nothing unusual about that.
As Hayne says, there’s no realistic “likelihood of frequent or difficult litigation” coming out of this.
As he also says, “permitting Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples to make representations to the government is a marked step forward in the way in which public policy affecting those peoples will be formed and implemented”.
In other words, ignore the misdirections. This is a good thing to do, the right thing to do, and now is the time to do it.
These right wing clods are happy to have a constitution that would still permit disenfranchisement based on race, but they hate the idea of recognising the past bastardry of our colonial nation. Perhaps because so many of the bastards were their heroes. It must be in the constitution, because otherwise governments can snap their fingers and remove it as Howard did with ATSIC. ATSIC was not a bad idea, just badly done, but Howard replaced it with nothing. There is still a distaste for recognising anything to do with Blakfellas and there is still a vein of racsim running through the LNP of which Howard and his anti-refugee status in the Fraser years was the shining light.
The ALP has invested heavily in this and rightly so. Dutton et al are trying to damage the chances in order to weaken Albo beccauise he has put it on the line.
A vein of racism? It’s their (imagined) mother lode.
I prefer to think of it as “Part of their Dreaming……….”
Callinan is a relic of the Joh Bjelke-Petersen era up here in Qld, a bloviating bore best ignored.
Wonder how much he was paid for his “opinion” by He Who Must Not Be Named?……………….
Reactionaries gotta be reactionaries even when they are pretending not to be…. Recommend to everyone the excellent interview with Hayne on the ABC RN’s Law Report. The ABC can produce that and then you have the lightweights down at Q&A still fulfilling the role it was created to do for John Howard, confine the political debate (and spectrum) to Liberal v Labor and remove critical thinking generally in the name of “balance”.
Yet again, the frontrunner in what should be a pretty straightforward proposition is bollocks.
Brought to you by the “You Don’t Pay For Any Fancy Logic” LNP and the inevitable He Who Must Not Be Named.
So in the interests of clarity, here is the Shipping News:
Not too complicated after all……………….
I don’t think 2 is right. The Cth can surely establish The Voice under its aboriginal affairs power.
Not so………
…….there are no separate “Aboriginal Affairs” powers.
The 1967 Constitutional amendment asked the question:
“Do you approve the proposed law for the alteration of the Constitution entitled ‘An Act to alter the Constitution so as to omit certain words relating to the people of the Aboriginal race in any state and so that Aboriginals are to be counted in reckoning the population’?
Essentially, rather than adding a specific power, it removed two blatantly racist sections of the then Constitution……….
“51. The Parliament shall, subject to this Constitution, have power to make laws for the peace, order, and good government of the Commonwealth with respect to:
127. In reckoning the numbers of people of the Commonwealth, or of a State or other part of the Commonwealth, aboriginal natives shall not be counted.”
So the Amendment knocked out the highlighted wording of Sec.51 and removed Sec.127 completely, but did NOT actually give the Commonwealth either any additional, nor specific powers to legislate for Aborigines separately.
Alles klar?
But surely xxvi now gives the power to legislate for people of the aboriginal race (eg: establishing a Voice) now that the “other than the aboriginal race” has been deleted?
Alternatively, the Voice seems consistent with the UN Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples and therefore could be legislated under the external affairs power.
It’s a pretty long bow, and not one that I’d like to argue in court…………
…….(xxvi) may itself even be in breach of the UN Declaration of Human Rights (to which Australia was a founding signatory in 1948), although I don’t know whether it has ever been tested. (It implies discriminatory laws based on race – very iffy).
The external affairs powers are restricted to legislation dealing with external actors (i.e. non-Australians).
If there was a way of wangling it I have no doubt the Government would be pursuing that, rather than going down the referendum path.
Hmmm…. I thought the Franklin River Dam case extended the external affairs powers to allowing domestic changes so long as they were consistent with a foreign treaty or charter that the Fed Govt had signed up to.
To a degree, yes…………
……..but it is limited to situations where the Commonwealth could incorporate the terms of an International Treaty to which it was a signatory into local Legislation.
In the case of the Franklin River Dam, because the area had previously (1982) been declared a World Heritage Site, the Hawke Government was able to incorporate that into it’s own legislation, the World Heritage Properties Conservation Act 1983.
United Nations Declarations are not legally binding Treaties, they are indicative frameworks for individual countries to use in creating their own legislation.
If you need any more legal advice, I’m going to have to start charging you………………
The thread above highlights a question that I think a lot of people have: why does the Voice need Constitutional recognition to do what it is intended to do ?
All the words in any Constitution butter no parsnips w/o people of good will implementing its provisions – what prevents an(y) Executive “listening” now?
Apart from the cacophony of ever louder, more irrational voices.
I’d have thought that items 1 to 4 in my original post explained why……………
…………without a specific “Head of Power” in the Constitution, the Commonwealth has no authority to enact legislation – ANY legislation.
If they legislated for a “Voice” today, I can guarantee Voldemort would be up with a Constitutional challenge tomorrow.
And currently, he would win.
I don’t know how to make it any clearer than that.
p.s. That is exactly why “Sports Rorts” was unconstitutional from the off……………..
…………. the Commonwealth has no Head of Power in the Constitution to make grants of Commonwealth funds to (State Based) Sporting bodies.
I assume the reason why nobody took the Liberals to court is that Labor have every intention of doing the same thing in due course…………………………
Not really. This is circular reasoning – ‘The Voice will be defined in the Constitution and therefore needs a Constitutional change’.
But what is it that the Voice is supposed to *do* that requires it to be in the Constitution ?
How does the Constitution today prevent creating a committee to make “representations” to Parliament on Indigenous issues ?
I’d go through the logic, but it would be better if you read the Constitution.
p.s. Don’t take my word for it, ask Anne Twomey.
Very persuasive.
Without a specific “Head of Power” in the Constitution, the Commonwealth has no authority to enact legislation – ANY legislation.
How can that possibly be “circular reasoning?”
It is the very foundation of the rule of law.
If you can’t be bothered to find the reference, try this:
https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/6675742/sports-rorts-not-constitutional-expert/
Establishing a group of people to provide advise to Government on policymaking is unconstitutional ?!
“Establishing a group of people to provide advice to Government on policymaking” is not what the Voice is about………..
………..as you very well know.
Read the article by Anne Twomey for an exact explanation of my point 1.
Or perhaps a genuine hotshot Constitutional Lawyer is not sufficiently qualified to convince you?
Then what is it about ? Because that is very much the layman’s narrative that is presented, especially when anyone wonders about – in good faith or bad – whether or not it might have any ‘real power’.
But I’m not disputing point 1. I don’t need to be convinced about it.
“… as you very well know”.
I have no idea what rabbit-hole you are navigating……………
……..nor do I have any interest in debating it.
The No campaign are being financed by the same bunch of North Shore millionaires who were behind the failed attempt by Abbott to retain his seat.
That in itself should be reason enough to refrain from joining in their campaign of distraction from the salient points.
I’ll leave the last word to you, as that appears to be your main objective.
Yup, sure is a mystery:
“why does the Voice need Constitutional recognition to do what it is intended to do”
“But what is it that the Voice is supposed to *do* that requires it to be in the Constitution”
The consistent caginess, disingenuity and aggression of “yes” campaigners aren’t exactly confidence-inspiring, either.
A straight answer would be nice, but you are studiously avoiding one.
It requires input in the Constitution so the next government cannot pass legislation to remove it. Once the representation is in the Constitution then all governments must have such a body.
Yes, that does seem to be the point – but nobody wants to say it out loud.
Though given that the Government of the day has no obligation to take any notice of what the Voice says, how much value does that really have ?
It gives political weight to the words, if the people wish the politicians to listen and they do not there will/ may be political consequences.
I don’t see that the Voice introduces a mandatory element into the mix. It is a similar argument to whether “may” equals “must”. Surely the Voice is free to comment or not comment as it sees fit and the Executive or Parliament is free to agree with them or not. Stop trying to complicate the thing.
Exactly (with one caveat)……………
………..as the exact framework for any putative “voice” will not even be debated in Parliament until after the referendum (and only then, assuming that it gets up), it is up to the Parliament (as a whole) to determine whether the legislation itself should incorporate any degree of obligation on the Government of the day.
It would also be open to any subsequent Government to amend any such legislation as they might see fit (providing they stay within the terms of the Constitutional amendment).
So in a Dystopian Future, Dutton might make an attempt to neuter the “Voice” but would still be constrained in that he could not kill it completely.