There’s a dissonance between the enthusiasm with which Australia’s political elites have embraced the country’s latest shiny military pact, and how Australians view the nation central to that pact — and how we suspect that nation sees us.
Two recent polls — one Australian, one American — suggest our estimate of what we think about the US is largely wrong. Rather than an impassioned welcoming of the global pax Americana, Australians are cautious, even sceptical.
One poll, from the Australian foreign policy establishment’s think tank of choice, the Lowy Institute, takes its annual dive into what Australians think about our foreign policy challenges. The other, a Pew Research poll, compares the way 23 countries, including Australia, see America.
Pew added Australia to the mix only in 2020 (which itself says something about how — or how often — Americans think about Australia). But we’ve already distinguished ourselves as among the most sceptical about the US and its power.
On guns, God and bigotry, Australians mark down the US. There’s a narrow lean to a “favourable” view, with 52% thumbs up and 47% thumbs down. This is almost good news: last time around, in the depths of the Trump era, it was 70% unfavourable.
A look at attitudes in neighbouring countries challenges something else we think we know about our place in the world. Rather than being the faithful deputy sheriff, our scepticism is at odds with the far more favourable views of the US in Indonesia, India, Japan and South Korea.
And despite all the overheated rhetoric about China’s growing sphere of influence, Australians are the only people surveyed in the Asia-Pacific who reckon China is already the world’s leading economic power. People in Indonesia, India, Japan and South Korea all still pick the US.
We’re more sceptical than others in our region about America’s contribution to peace and stability — 38% of Australians think the US doesn’t contribute compared with, say, just 22% of Indonesians. And in countries such as India and South Korea, Pew says younger people are more trusting of America.
Back before Trump, in 2014, Lowy says the US was the majority pick as our “best friend in the world”. When they asked again last year, we overwhelmingly picked New Zealand — only 26% stils thought it’s the Americans.
The Trump shift has moderated, but endured. Pew shows Australians are among the least confident that US President Joe Biden will do the right thing on foreign affairs (maybe we can blame the warmed-over Fox commentary across the Murdoch media). The Lowy poll shows 38% have “not too much” or no confidence in Biden, well behind the confidence in France’s President Emmanuel Macron or the UK’s Prime Minister Rishi Sunak.
What’s caused the change? Pew says Australians overwhelmingly think the US is less politically stable, more dangerous, more religious and less tolerant than “other wealthy nations”. We also don’t think much of its standard of living — only 21% think the US is better than average. (Although we do love its television and music.)
But here’s the dissonance: both polls have good news for the military alliance. According to the Lowy poll, both the trilateral AUKUS with the US and UK, and the Quad with Japan, India and US, remain broadly supported. So, too (although less definitively), is the nuclear submarines deal.
Maybe we just like being noticed. In Pew’s pre-AUKUS June 2021 poll, only 23% of Australians thought the US took us into account when making foreign policy decisions. This year’s post-AUKUS polls show the number up to 40%, although 59% are more hard-nosed: nah, they don’t.
The Lowy numbers show, too, that Australians grasp the quid pro quo at the heart of the US relationship: yes, Australians think, it makes us safer. And yes, it makes it more likely we’ll be dragged into a war in Asia. There’s a limit though: given a range of options for support of Taiwan in the event of an invasion by the People’s Republic of China, an Australian majority ticks all the boxes — except putting troops on the ground.
So what’s going on? Maybe we’re too influenced by the catastrophist manner in which news out of America is reporting to Australians. Maybe it’s because Sky — amplified on YouTube and Facebook — has become a cultural feeder for Fox’s peculiarly dark vision of America.
Or maybe, as Freud saw, it’s just the “narcissism of minor differences” that demands we build up our own identity by tearing down an otherwise deeply similar other.
Those besotted with the USA and the perception of the safety it affords Australia are ignoring history and present day reality. If (I repeat if) China is the ‘enemy’ in any future conflict, the USA will, as it did in years gone by, only enter said conflict if it’s national interests are in play. To assume Australia is a US national interest is a stretch. If a war between China and the USA was to break out (I sincerely hope it does not) it will see both countries ‘homelands’ taking hits from weapons that did not exist during the last great global powers conflict. That will ensure both countries prioritise protection of the ‘homeland’ above helping any distant ally who may also be taking hits. Kiss goodbye to the notion of a protective umbrella. It’s going to be a North American umbrella with a bit over Hawaii and no where else. Those are the realities I foresee in any conflict. Time to look after Australians national interests on behalf of Australians and stop spending money in the vain hope the USA will ride over the hill.
You are spot on Richard, and look how the USA howled over the relatively minor 9/11 homeland hit.
A major homeland hit like Hiroshima would show Americans what their warmongering feels like to other nations. Their likely reaction though, would be the end of human civilisation. Such is their stupidity.
That was a real line in the sand reinforcing the Howard Brit/Irish heritage cohort born pre WWII and post WWII into the baby boomers, and Howard’s obsession with all things Anglo, Christian and conservative, with dollops of imported US white nativism.
Very significant above median age voter cohort, many who identified with UK and US, or ‘the Anglosphere’, but since then we have become more diverse with same cohort down to 54% of the population (far less in urban centres).
A good related example nowadays, is how the UK seems more popular with Australian oldies, while Australians on working holiday visas into UK decline (despite media noise) vs. increase in younger generations now inc. baby boomers, more interested in and with strong links to the EU, helped by more having EU dual citizenship/passports.
Also, the EU area often appears to be more sensible and centrist compared with the Morrison, Johnson & Trump axis….. following on from Howard et al.
Shareholders are the best defence – mutual loss of business opportunity.
Let us pray.
Absolutely right. We as a nation have no land-based anti-missile/aircraft/ship missile systems to speak of and as an island, You would think that would be a priority. The new systems the government is acquiring are ship-based systems for, (as our entire military is geared for now), taking war to other countries, Amphibious ships, long-range nuclear subs, which according to the United States Naval Institute actually cost $4.3B each.https://news.usni.org/2023/04/04/report-on-virginia-class-attack-submarine-program-10. also the fact the US Marines are in Darwin to train our soldiers to take their place as seaborne assault troops because the US Marines are changing their operational doctrine to Airborne special operations. Australia is in lockstep with the US now, and nothing the people say or think will change that. The government pays no attention to the people’s wishes, when it comes to the big picture, we are simply ALLOWED to pick a new middle management every 3 years, but the Corporation does not listen to the workers. Ours is to shut up and work. The agenda is apparent (subtly) in this article, “The Trump shift has moderated, but endured. Pew shows Australians are among the least confident that US President Joe Biden will do the right thing on foreign affairs (maybe we can blame the warmed-over Fox commentary across the Murdoch media)” The fact the writer apportions blame for not supporting the Biden Administration foreign affairs, shows a disappointment that we don’t except the policy, a clear bias, again subtle but clear.
Let’s face it; we’re afraid of them, first and foremost. Pity help us if we don’t ‘cough up’ for the price of subs etc.
I don’t know why we didn’t just commit to buying $300B worth of stuff from China in the next 25 years. Same end point.
The current cost of USUKA ($350B) would be barely 5 years of our current imports from China, the only major country with which we have a trade surplus.
Guess with which country we have the largest trade deficit (and have for the last 25yrs).
The US don’t care what we may think of them. They have thoroughly brainwashed most Australians be it most of the left, centre, right or indifferent with their culture and soft power and thats enough to keep us soft as putty to their never ending all pervasive influence and manipulation.
We are indeed only war fodder for USA. They have never supported us post WWII
But the article says we are ‘among the most sceptical about the US and its power.’ Most of the world likes US culture and soft power, but that doesn’t translate to support for their policies.
Partly true, FoxNews, Trump, Russian sock puppets, left wing ‘tankies’, conspiracy theorists, alt right etc. promoting Ukraine as the aggressor vs. following their preferred Putin and sharing his ‘corrupt white nativist Christian nationalist authoritarianism’ of Russia; though most have pedalled back on their support for Putin and proxies for some reason….
I am so pissed off with US culture, I won’t watch their Hollywood trash and idiotic TV, and I am even starting to turn off their music..!!
Recently bought a Chinese EV, and would not have considered a Tesla on principle.
Australia has long been known in Washington as an “easy lay”.
And that came from mid level to senior ADF Staff who had done Washington Postings.
Like the US, past generation of government has also made Australia look like it’s a nation of and for oligarchs and/or plutocrats….. makes citizens appear very passive and unempowered……
AaH!, Remember George Reeves in the Adventures of Superman. There was Truth, Justice, and the American Way. Now, it seems more likely as There is Truth, There is Justice, and, Then There is the American (Murdoch/Fox/Trump) Way! It is no wonder our opinions are becoming more cautious and sceptical.
‘Guns, God and bigotry’. An American friend of mine decided, several years ago, that when they had to do a work course on what to do when (not if) a shooter comes into your work environment, it was time to emigrate anywhere.
Truth, justice, or the American way.
Kissinger. Nixon. Friedman. Rand. Koch. Trump.
Basically just a gang of robber barons, who’ve produced so much propaganda that many are convinced up is down, like turkeys hanging out for Thanksgiving.
Absolutely correct. The anaesthesized masses copping endless TV nonsense can’t see it, sadly, and really don’t care beyond self-interest.
America joined WWII only after Pearl Harbour and enjoyed the economic benefit of war supplies before then to UK.
We should not forget that it was Australian troops who delayed the Japanese advance along Kokoda denying them the supplies and air base in Port Moresby.
Additionally the repulse of the Japanese assault at Milne Bay by Australian troops again was the first land victory by the Allies in the South Pacific. That destroyed the reputation that Japan was invincible. It also denied them another air base.
Finally it was the Aussie troops, picked by the American General Eisenburger , who finally ejected theJapanese from the island of PNG from their well fortified positions on the beaches of Buna, Gona and Sanananda. That was after the route of America troops in the first battle . Victory there started the slow retreat of the Japanese back to Japan
And in Europe, the US lost 140,000dead, while the Russians stopped the Germans with 26 MILLION DEAD.
Who won the war???
“…and enjoyed the economic benefit of war supplies before then to UK”
And Germany, Ford, IBM. et al.