Nearly six years after the #MeToo movement arrived in Australia, and more than a decade after the launch of the first national plan to reduce violence against women, those who witnessed the scenes in Parliament last week — and read the media coverage that spurred it — could be forgiven for wondering what, if anything, will ever really change.
I suspect those despairing, like me, also reflected on the recent release of the second national community attitudes survey, which demonstrated that myths about sexual assault and domestic violence are still rife — and the backlash against justice for women is in full swing.
The survey found that a significant number of Australians hold views that mistrust women, objectify them, disregard consent, minimise violence and victim-blame. For example, one in five believe that women who say they were raped had “led the man on and then had regrets”. And when it was released in March, the researchers warned more needed to be done to address myths and the so-called “backlash” they engendered.
Yet here we are, just four months later, and those harmful myths were on full display.
I could write volumes about what that survey tells us about our efforts to prevent violence against women, but for now I’ll focus on the media and the role it has played in enabling violence against women and fuelling that backlash.
What we saw last week was shameful. There was The Australian’s decision to draw upon (I would argue selectively) Brittany Higgins’ leaked text messages. Higgins alleged in 2021 that she was raped in Parliament House. The alleged perpetrator, Bruce Lehrmann — who has always maintained his innocence — was not convicted. The first trial collapsed due to juror misconduct and the second was abandoned due to concerns for Higgins’ mental health. Those texts were never tendered as evidence — and should never have seen the light of day.
There were reports over the weekend in The Australian, in one of which a victim-survivor claimed to represent all victim-survivors’ experiences of the criminal justice system. The author claimed, categorically, that the criminal justice system works for women and a victim’s willingness to cooperate with police is the “foremost predictor of conviction”. That is simply not true. A second article questioned victim-survivors’ credibility in sexual assault trials by drawing on stereotypes about mental illness.
And as readers of Crikey will be well aware, The Australian was not the only offender. To suggest otherwise — and that only those working at News Corp need to reflect — would serve to minimise the scale of the problem.
In a sub-genre I like to call “Men Explain Things to Me” (thanks, Rebecca Solnit), there was no shortage of men pontificating about sexual violence. We had Ray Hadley on 2GB saying the quiet part out loud, the very definition of the trope of “the perfect victim”, when he suggested that Senator Lidia Thorpe’s allegation that Senator David Van had sexually harassed and assaulted her (allegations he denies) should be taken seriously because they were backed by former Liberal Senator Amanda Stoker. She was, said Hadley, “a quality woman”.
And there was Crikey’s very own Guy Rundle, who made a particularly unique contribution to the “what was she wearing” genre when he wondered what Higgins had spent her settlement money on, including designer shoes. No, Rundle, you are not “entitled” to know the details of Higgins’ confidential settlement just because you are a taxpayer; nor are you entitled to muse about what she spent the money on. “Entitled”, indeed.
My frustration with media representations of violence against women, and the extent to which the media can either be part of the solution by tackling the attitudes and beliefs that give rise to violence or part of the problem by reinforcing those beliefs via harmful myths and stereotypes, is not theoretical. I have skin in this game.
For my sins, when I first arrived in Australia a decade ago I took a job with Our Watch, the national foundation to prevent violence against women, as the inaugural national media engagement manager.
At the time, in the days after the launch of the first national plan, and in the year the murder of Rosie Batty’s son Luke shocked the nation out of a sense of complacency, media representations of violence were very much on the national agenda. According to the first national plan, the media had been identified in state and national policy documents as “a priority area for action on preventing violence against women”.
As a result, Our Watch was funded to do several things, including establish the national Our Watch awards for exemplary reporting of violence against women, commission world-leading research into media representations of violence against women, and develop reporting guidelines.
A decade later, traces of that work are hard to find — and momentum seems to have been lost. It was deeply ironic that last week the significantly scaled-back Our Watch award for reporting on violence against women (it used to be a standalone event, now it’s a single award at the Walkley Awards’ midyear celebration) was handed out at the same time the Australian media was plumbing new depths in its reporting of the issues.
It has been disappointing that Our Watch has had nothing to say about recent events. Meanwhile, the Canberra Rape Crisis Centre issued a powerful open letter to the media excoriating them for being part of the problem, and Full Stop Australia “urged caution” after recent media reports “misrepresented the reality of victim-survivors of sexual violence”.
Where is the leadership from Australia’s primary prevention body once tasked with the job of tackling media representations of violence against women as part of its broader “prevention” work?
“When the media program started [at Our Watch] I had a lot of hope,” journalist and advocate Jane Gilmore says. Gilmore was at the vanguard of that movement to tackle media representations of violence against women a decade ago. She established the “Fixed It” campaign in 2014 and — five years later — published a book of the same name about everything she had learnt about men’s violence, women’s (mis)representation and the media.
“But I haven’t given up hope,” she says. “And a whole lot of people haven’t given up yet. That’s what makes me get out of bed in the morning and keep going.”
Our Watch has been contacted for a response.
If you or someone you know is affected by sexual assault or violence, call 1800RESPECT on 1800 737 732 or visit 1800RESPECT.org.au. In an emergency, call 000.
Thanks for the article. One comment. You refer to ‘the shameful behaviour of the media’ in this case in relation to the current boosting of conflict around sexual assault. However the I suspect that the real problem and blockage to progress is the shameful behaviour of most of the media in relation to almost everything. Audiences are chased by sensationalising articles though selective quoting, seeking the most damaging interpretation of everything, gossip and innuendo that veers regularly into outright lies and an approach to reporting that is designed to engage through offence.
Then there is the issue of straight out partisan backing of special interests.
Overall there is an increasingly recognised problem with media distortion in the pursuit of audience reaction and money. I don’t know how we get around that as a society without radical change – which would be very hard to achieve.
Yes, selective quoting and not including all relevant facts appear to be flourishing.
One wonders exactly what is taught in a journalism course these days…perhaps it hardly matters as much as what an editor dictates re the journalist’s end product.
It is probably more along the lines of how to write the perfect clickbait article – or would be if media organisations controlled it. I know the esoteric subject of ethics in journalism is still out there. However being an ethical journalist and being employed are likely to be fairly incompatible these days.
I suspect that it’s pretty much the same as it is for many professions. There’s what’s taught at uni and how that goes in practice when higher ups are manipulating workers for other reasons such as their personal interests, the profit motive, political power, being a workplace psychopath, etc.
Look at GP practices all or most owned or part of consortium Agpal or smartclinics incorporated – poor subcontractors and ineptitude and greed running rampant over any decent individuals -heath care oligopoly too increasingly synthetics cheap pharna foisted onto us but individual victims / patient care and peoples’ health outcomes are disadvantaged due to bottom line if all these parasite middle men proifiteers – hiring green or desperate conforming slave work force
A word to the wise to the ageing white males: you are not being subjected to racism or sexism. Like time, racism and sexism travel in only one direction. You are not as a group being systematically oppressed by black, brown or indigenous people. You are not as a group being oppressed by women. White men are the dominant group in Australian society, and so you are insulated against these isms. If any women or non-white people do not like you, you are not disadvantaged as a result. And Rundle does not have the knowledge, expertise or experience to shed any light on the Higgins v Lehrmann saga; all he did was add to a disgraceful media pile-on.
Exactly.
Just a couple of observations on your post Zara:
Firstly, if you think that you are hard done-by as a woman living here in Australia then I suggest you move to any of a multitude of countries where Islam is the predominant religion. I think that you would be scurrying back here in a very short time with a more conciliatory view of the place. Now, I am not saying that there are no major problems here – but there are places where things are much worse. While I am discussing this point of the ‘oppression’ (a term that can mean a multitude of things – all of which are bad) of women, let’s not forget the role that alcohol plays in this oppression. No one except a few, like myself, will mention this. It certainly played a role in this latest ongoing imbroglio from Canberra which scorches the hands of all who get involved in it (that’s why someone who is as risk-averse as myself, leaves it well alone).
Secondly, Zara, as I observed above in a reply to Henk,
“My feeling is that all this ageist, racist and sexist nonsense is all yet another distraction from the real issue and that is the blatant capitalist exploitation that we are all being subjected to. The capitalist class does not discriminate along ageist, racist or sexist lines; they can and do, rip off anyone they can.”
Let’s identify the real problem in our society.
I do not agree that you should move to a theocratic society. Being told that others have got it worse smacks of lie back and think of England. But I suppose some people do think you can be a little bit pregnant. Or half-alive.
Just trying to put things into some sort of perspective.
Who’s perspective, I wonder.
A ‘global perspective’ for what its worth. I am not one of those provincial, parochial sorts of chaps.
What a piece of pointless whataboutery, Robert. I made the unarguable statement that white men are the dominant group in Australian society, and you come back with the stock NewsCorp answer: if you don’t like it, leave. Where did I express any enthusiasm for Islam? Sexism is the norm almost everywhere, including, it appears from your comments, the socialist left, and most if not all religions include it in their stock in trade. And I don’t need to be informed of an ossified white male perspective, that is already very well broadcast and we are all aware of it.
O.K. Zara, over to you. What is your solution to all the problems that you have so eloquently elucidated?
By the way, I did not suggest that you expressed any enthusiasm for Islam. I would also anticipate Zara that you would find ‘sexism’ in your Corn Flakes at breakfast time.
Attention Zara, Attention Zara, Breaking news!!
I have just consulted with the highest authority in the land (at least as far as I am concerned). I put to her a direct question, “Do you think that I am a sexist, dear?” The reply was “Naaah, (said in a tone that implied the question was quite absurd). And I can tell you that she (my wife) knows me far better than you do.
Yawn. Of course your wife is defending you, as Tony Abbott’s and Scomo’s wives defended them. Talk about special pleading.
One solution to the problem would be for men to recognise and do something about their sexism, but that’s a “no” from men like you. I don’t know you and I don’t want to know you, but I do know your type: everything is all about you, and you instantly go on the defensive against any perceived criticism. You don’t know me either: I don’t eat cornflakes – they are boring and old-fashioned, much like yourself.
Ohhh Zara (blush) I have to warn you now, flattery will get you nowhere!! I love being boring and old fashioned (I am an old fogy too, whatsmore!!) All that keeps me out of trouble )except perhaps with people like you).
I will try to resist the temptation to make further comments. All that I will say is that if you have experienced some major trauma in your life at the hands of a man or men, then I am truly sorry about that. If that happens to be the case then I unreservedly withdraw all my comments.
OK, withdraw them then. You would be surprised how many women are survivors of assaults by men, and how sick and tired we are of men telling us it’s of no importance.
I will not only withdraw the comments Zara I will also apologize to you for making them and for the offense to you that they caused. My comments were entirely out of order. As far as I am concerned assaulting women is never of “no importance”.
Thank you, there is hope for you yet.
Thank you Zara.
Just sick and tired of men, is closer to the truth.
Lots of Women are sexist too and lots of non white younger men are sexist too so ehats with these labels : identity is fine unless you were born in a certsin place and time – these are only indicative of a whole human – yes this joint is sexist and ageist and scared or others not OF tge dominant power group
sic : whats with ; certain place; of others not of the large dominant power group
Its not just Islamic countries. A study by female academics (sorry, forget who) found Australia rated in the top 3 for gender equality out of 140 countries. Maybe Sweden and Finland do it better but where else?. I think you also only have to earn $50 000 to be in the top 1% of income worldwide. Try being a low income female, or indeed male, in most countries. Lives in most countries are unbelievably tough by our standards Of course, most people in Australia are deplorably white, who would have thunk it. Racist, toi?
What is your point with this whataboutery, Ron? Do try to be rational. I make the factual statement that white men are the dominant group in Australian society, which they indubitably are, and therefore as a corollary, as female academics can tell you, white men are not being subjected to sexism or racism, and you get all defensive and suggest I’m being racist. Maybe I am racist as I’m also white, but I’m certainly not racist towards white people, even assuming that’s a thing (it’s not). Incidentally your ranking is unsubstantiated and wrong. The World Economic Forum, quoted by the office of Prime Minister and Cabinet, ranks Australia 43rd of 146 countries for gender equality. Maybe you confused Australia with New Zealand, which ranks 4th.
Thanks ZaraH
Appreciate the rational based response.
Cant find the study I mentioned, but this one ranks Aust ninth, behind some plausible better suspects. The WEF study had some worrying methodology; it includes “proximitu to equality rather than womens empowerment, so doesnt reward eg where female education outcomes exceed male. Que? Sounds more like a product of the outrage industry.
Yes, Australia is predominantly white and most powerful people are male, but you are less oppressed by them than practically any group in a non western country or in history!
https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/rankings/gender-equality
Let’s stay rational, Ron. The study you cite is a marketing study, based on the “impressions” of a global survey of 17,000 people, conducted by BAV Group – a unit of global marketing communications company WPP – and the business school of the University of Pennsylvania. It’s measuring spin.
The WEF gender equality study is based on actual data across a number of metrics, which are health and survival, educational attainment, economic participation and opportunity, and political empowerment. And a number of non-western countries beat Australia in the gender equality index. Given you criticise its methodology I will assume (perhaps erroneously) you have found the study but you can google it if not, links seem to hold up posts.
Your last statement is a very big call. All in all, I suspect you might be more a product of the outrage industry than the WEF study is.
women got half the superannuation and are the poor workers in the aged care training schemes run by blokes of all creeds – wake up – we are charged to child care and educate and our options are once our kids turn 8 and 16 we or our working or unemploynent is again jeopardised or limited to cut off
I’m not sure that ‘most’ people in Australia are white, Ron, and even so, as Stan Grant so eloquently argued, one’s use of the word ‘white’ can stand as a simple metaphor for privilege over others regardless of their colour or ethnicity.
Let’s also not fall into the same lazy thinking regarding levels of income implying levels of poverty. Here we might happily pay $6 for a coffee (not me, can’t stand the stuff, but moving on…) whereas in some of the countries you might have in mind, $6 will buy you a cow. I was also going to say it could buy you a wife but let’s leave that one for another day. Anyway, it’s a false equivalence to compare incomes when the corresponding price of goods is so vastly different.
It’s right here that being a ‘low income female’, especially if you’re Indigenous, can have devastating consequences for your standard of living and safety in general. No need to compare with other countries when our own fails so abysmally in equality before the law, equality of opportunity and personal safety.
The study you cite might have looked at gender equality across the board but failed to note the significant outliers such as mentioned above. The joy of statistics……
Thank GG, agree with pretty much here, except perhaps the “White” bit was initially thrown around by others (OWGs..) Would think you would have to try hard to exclude Southern Europeans etc not to cover the majority of Australians. Agree disadvantage is a bad thing, and I would prefer more equality. Being a low income male is prob not great either.
Of course being a low income male is not so great but not necessarily life-threatening to the same degree as for women. As for the white Australians point, let’s agree that neither of us has quoted any relevant stats and can therefor not be confident of our statements. I would however suggest that it might be more accurate to say that a ‘majority’ of Australians might be ‘whitish’, although it is also fair to say that a lot of Southern Europeans in the early days of immigration were frequently referred to as wops and dagos, which were a reference to their swarthiness. As I said, ‘whiteness’ can be construed as more of a class (Hi Mr Rundle) or a power thing rather than a skin colour thing.
“The study you cite might have looked at gender equality across the board” – It didn’t. It’s a marketing study, based on the “impressions” of a global survey of 17,000 people, conducted by BAV Group – a unit of global marketing communications company WPP – and the business school of the University of Pennsylvania. It’s measuring spin. The WEF study did, though.
A ‘marketing study based on impressions’ really gives me confidence in the quality of the data. I think we can safely park that study in the ‘probably dodgy’ category. Additionally, if a large number of Americans were involved that would in my view disqualify it as anything based in reality, since a very large percentage of the population would have trouble pinpointing Finland or Australia on a map.
I heard a fab fact from a Canadian not too long ago, that 60% of Americans don’t have a passport. Speaks volumes, don’t it?
Hi ZaraH
Would concede most of what you say here, though was not impressed with WEF methodology at first glance. Will try and find female academic study I referred to earlier, more likely to meet your (rightly) high standards. Though always depressed whenever you dig into any study in this area it just seems to reflect back the biases of the authors.
Hi Zara H and GG
In fairness to reasoned responses from you both, the WEF stuff does not paint as rosey a picture as I would have thought. Still some very weird results though. A lot of rankings are very close and hence a bit arbitrary, as is just combining different indexes. For 2021 South Africa (18th) and Zimbabwe (47th) ranked above Australia (50th). Of the 4 criteria they use, Zimbabwe ranks = first for equity in Health and Survival (low for everybody?), South Africa 37th while Australia is a terrible 99th for Health and Survival. Really, what’s happening to women’s health here compared to Zim? For Political Empowerment South Africa ranks 14th, ahead of Australia at 54th but we do beat Zimbabwe here who are 71st. So women really have better lives in these countries compared to men than here? We also seem to do badly for Economic Participation and Opportunity, 70th in the world (Laos does best), offset by =1st in education.
Alternatively, the World Bank ranked Australia No 1 globally in terms of women’s formal legal barriers to economic participation, though this is not necessarily outcomes though it is true.(see link below).
So I would concede that many European countries and NZ prob do better than us (cant find earlier study I quoted), but really SA and Zim? Thanks for the education…
https://www.cfr.org/legal-barriers/country-rankings
Just like Scomo:
“This is a vibrant liberal democracy. Not far from here, such marches, even now, are being met with bullets”
And he was sorry he could not do the same! It is a bit less of a vibrant democracy than it was before he came along.
Point well made Ron!
Are you indeed suggesting that marches or other forms of demonstrations “not far from here” have not been “met with bullets”? That would be a ‘stretch’, even for you, dr!
No, I am highlighting the similarity between your comments and his, both used to dismiss concerns raised.
I like the way you dr (along with a number of others around here, seem to assume that because someone such as Scott Morrison (or Tony Abbott, etc.) makes a statement or passes some kind of remark and then someone else at a later time makes a similar comment, then that comment is immediately rendered invalid because Morrison came out with something similar at an earlier time. Quite absurd!
The concerns that were also being implied about me were not only quite outrageous – they were also made without any justification or foundation. If anyone thinks that I am going to cop that sort of nonsense without a rebuttal then (as you have no doubt noticed), they very much have another thing coming.
Hope you have a great week coming up.
Cheers.
No. The conclusion is that you share the same propensity to avoid discussion of the topic by using whataboutery to try and redirect to an unrelated topic, because you share the same underlying indifference to it.
Your first reaction when confronted with an observation of systemic sexist behavior, was to try and redirect the discussion by asserting that if the observer experienced an even worse environment, they would quickly come to accept (if not appreciate) that systemic sexist behavior because it wasn’t as bad. Followed by attempted deflections to alcohol, and – hilariously – capitalism .
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So what you call “implications” were more like a big neon sign. Subsequently reinforced by juvenile insults, unfunny banter and non-apology apology.
ZH had your measure from the first reply.
The reality is dr that I do not show the propensity to avoid any discussion that you or any other ‘Crikerian’ wishes to bring up. Why should I? I certainly have nothing to fear, or to be worried about around here. I stand by every comment that I have hitherto made. However, I certainly do not stand by the comments that have been ‘put into my mouth’ by others who, in a number of instances seem to be borderline psychiatric cases. “Verballing’ others, whose views you disagree with seems to be the only approach that you and your ‘politically correct’ ilk seem capable of adopting dr. Next thing dr, you will be seeking to write my posts for me and then criticizing them. (The old ‘straw-man’ approach which I think you have mentioned in the past.) By doing that you won’t have to deliberately misinterpret my comments in order to attempt to score a cheap point.
Just be aware dr, you won’t score any cheap points off me, my friend. If anyone has your measure, it is me.
Great to chat once again, dr. Keep trying to score those points.
Robert that’s pretty much the same argument as Morrison’s comment that if the women protesting outside Parliament were in other countries not far from here they’d be shot. How did that comment go down for him?
Wendy, with respect, I often like to look at issues from an international perspective. I am not sure just why it is that we are ‘permitted’ to discuss the repression of women who live in this country only.
Let me also assure you Wendy that I detest Scott Morrison as much as you do. But it is possible that he may say something, at some stage, that could be true. The same applies to Peter Dutton.
What an inane answer Robert. You are saying that because sexism is worse elsewhere, that we have no right to complain about sexism here. There is no logic in that. Perhaps if you don’t like women who are not wallflowers, then you should go somewhere else where they are. Mars preferably
Hi Rob,
Thank you so much for reading my post and for your (rather dismal) attempt at a reply. At least you got half the message right. I am certainly saying that sexism is worse elsewhere. If you cannot understand that then you need to get out a bit more.
Your attempt to ‘verbal’ me with the comment that:
“.... that we have no right to complain about sexism here”
suggests to me that you would benefit mightily by enrolling in a basic English Comprehension class. I never said that nor did I ever imply it. It seems to me Rob, that you simply make the story up as you go along to suit your narrative. Actually, I have always enjoyed the company of women, but not those who you might regard as ‘wallflowers’ (or harridans either, for that matter).
You’re not really addressing the issues raised in the article which are that things have not improved in relation to violence against women and girls in this country. Women are still being murdered every week by violent former partners, husbands and random males.
Men do not need to fear for their safety when their wives or girlfriends come home from work.
Men don’t have to worry if a misspoken word will result in a broken nose or eye socket, or concussion or worse. Health professions are increasingly concerned with women presenting with brain injuries more normally seen in men who play contact sports. These injuries are the result of punching, bashing and throttling by women’s partners.
Until the media, which is dominated by men, is forced to report truthfully about assaults and murders of women, very little will be done by mainly male politicians.
Well maybe, but if you dont want to let other people have opinions, not clear why we should spend time listening to yours, or indeed fund Crikey if it now has problems with OWG subscribers.
Golly, what a defensive lot some of you OWGs are, unable in the end to cope calmly with any disagreement or criticism. FYI it is not possible for me to stop other people having opinions. If it is not possible for those people to back up their opinions, that is not my fault. Just Saying had excellent advice “So to myself and the others in the OWG demographic, let’s harden up, cop it sweet and learn something.” Bang on.
Well actually, it was you guys
…who successfully shut down a published opinion piece in this very journal, disparage people with views that differ from yours, including from the editors that it is a problem that they have so many older white male readers. I accept that many of your responses have been reasoned, and happy to debate them, but not to fund growing intolerance from people who are usually quite priviledged middle class western academics or public servants. Nothing wrong with these groups (was one myself…), but being in the top 1% of global incomes are hardly actually oppressed.
Well actually, Ron, I never said I was oppressed. What I did clearly say was that OWGs are not being oppressed, and then the OWGs headed off in the direction of their choosing. And give the editors some credit for being thinking human beings.
Most of your comments have been great Zara. I think we agree OWGs are not being oppressed, just told here and elsewhere not allowed to have a differing view, and Rundle not allowed to express a view as he doesnt have the “expertise, experience and knowledge” to comment. And you and other Ms H supporters who have commented widely do have actual knowledge of what happened?? Happy to be wrong, but dont think she had any evidence either, apart from her own account, not to discount that. I regret the things that have happened to you, but boys get assaulted too (eg at boarding schools), less often no doubt and clearly it is a worse problem for women. All the best..
All the best to you too.
Paradoxically, the ‘hard-won momentum gained over the past decade’ appears to have not only ‘stalled’ but backfired. The incidence of domestic violence has increased.
According to the Australian Bureau of Statistics 2021-2022:
1 in 5 women over the age of 15 has experienced sexual violence
1 in 3 women over the age of 15 has experienced physical violence.
It seems society is going backwards – why?
A large part of society is going backwards on a lot of issues. Look at how anything ‘woke’ gets the Right in a lather. What’s happening is a reaction to the slowly growing liberalization and acceptance of differing values; the hard-core conservatives see it all as a threat and react violently. Sometimes it’s a planned thing (Trump, DeSantis, Sky After Dark), other times it’s spontaneous, such as sexual assault and gay bashing. A behaviorist would see it as a part of the extinction process; a rapid escalation in the behavior that used to be rewarded no longer getting the same kudos, satisfaction, or social approval.
It certainly feels like we’re going backwards in the last year or so, but when we consider the stats we have to remember that there’s a possibility that women have been more willing to admit their experiences than they have in the past.
I think we’re at a point where woman are more willing to be open and men are trying to shut that down. I think Bernard’s argument about a lot of referendum No people applies to the situation here.
Not just that women being willing to admit that they have been subject to domestic violence, but being more educated about what constitutes domestic violence. That certain behaviours are not normal and not acceptable
Indeed, one presumes both organic and the impact of imported ultra conservative or RW agitprop and media methods targeting males and especially above median age voters.
Designed for and to inspire patriarchy (misogyny), authority (violence), belief in latter (Christianity) ‘freedom & liberty’ (recklessness) and ‘freedom of speech’ (dog whistling anything centrist or different); macho nativist authoritarianism to intimidate.
Society is going backwards because the input from most of us is rejected in favour of whatever absolute rubbish supports the cosy prejudices and blinkered worldview of pestilently dominant rich white men.
Any remaining evidence-based practices aren’t long for this world, as we all drown in a tsunami of koolaid.
Pleased to see Crikey publishing this article by Ms Ziwica. I was not impressed with Rundle’s article on compensation paid to Ms Higgins. Queue the usual, aggressively defensive, ageing white men hijacking these comments.
Bit of a racist and ageist, comment there, ds!
I happen to be old (75 years of age) and horror of horrors whats more, a ‘white man’ too (the shame of it all!!) Aren’t I allowed to post a comment? What am I paying my subscription for, ds?
I hope to see the return of Guy in the near future too.
Cheers, ds.
So ageist as well as sexist?! Dont give me your opinion while I am giving you mine?? Quite agree with your right not to be impressed, but given the article has been suppressed by what was supposed to be a free media, you dont extend the courtesy to be impressed or otherwise to others.
Btw, it’s “cue” not “Queue”. I’m not always pedantic, just usually….
That will be predictive text. It gets almost everyone at some point.
Predictive text does misspelling, not homophones.
Hi Ron, if I should make any similar mistakes in any of my posts, then I would appreciate it if you would please bring them to my attention. I appreciate pedantry, in fact, I often indulge in it myself. I like things to be ‘right’.
Agree, a ‘free media’ should publish everything.
Apparently being blatantly ageist is perfectly acceptable in these comments, and there’s no problem about being shut down by the gate keepers. As a 79 yo white male looking after an adult son with a disability with my ageing partner, and having actively supported various social and environmental causes for 60 years I am dismayed at your dismissal of any views I may have on this issue. Btw, I think Rundle’s piece could have been more carefully nuanced and sensitive to those involved. Nevertheless, it raised relevant issues that should’ve been discussed in a respectful manner. I too hope to see his return soon.
The important thing is Henk, do not take these sorts of comments seriously. I certainly don’t. In fact, I do not go after the people who make them too vigorously, as I suspect that in more cases than not, there is likely to be a most unpleasant story (or ‘history’, if you like), behind those who make these sorts of comments (and I am not just talking about ideological zealotry).
I can appreciate your situation too Henk. I wish you and your partner all the very best with what must be increasingly difficult responsibilities (tasks do not become any easier as you get old).
Thanks RR. There’s no self-pity here, but I simply cannot let ageist comments (often complemented with racist overtones) go unchallenged. It happens too much these days.
I know and understand exactly what you are saying Henk. I was thinking about your post last night (by the way, I was not interpreting any ‘self-pity’ at all in your comments either), I was just putting myself in your position.
As I mulled over your comments I thought that there are some deeper issues involved here and I will probably wait until a slightly more opportune moment comes along and I will have more to say on that (not that I expect that anyone will take much notice). My feeling is that all this ageist, racist and sexist nonsense is all yet another distraction from the real issue and that is the blatant capitalist exploitation that we are all being subjected to. The capitalist class does not discriminate along ageist, racist or sexist lines; they can and do, rip off anyone they can.
Good on you RR!
Bullseye’d, and split the previous arrow.
Bullseye’d?? More like BS ds.
Thank you so much for that interesting article, Kristine.
For me, it follows on from an extremely interesting (and no less harrowing book, entitled Infidel, that I read recently by Ayaan Hirsi Ali who detailed the horrific treatment of women, not in Australia but in Africa and the Middle East. I find it to be somewhat strange that the perpetrators of the sort of extreme violence that Ayaan Hirsi Ali not only discussed in the book but actually experienced first-hand herself, is never commented upon or the perpetrators criticized here at Crikey. Curious indeed!
A couple of stuffed court cases have left the alleged perpetrator apparently squeaky clean. The negligence of the press for not going after him as much as Brittany to me is quite astounding. there has to be some agenda going on here.
Squeaky? He was rightly sacked, again probably rightly reputation destroyed (even his own story didn’t make him look good). Just didn’t get a 10 year jail term as not actually convicted. They both ended up losing big time.
Also, worth a look at are Ayaan Hirsi Ali’s other books Nomad and Heretic. In her introduction to Nomad ‘Readers of Infidel ….. also asked me a number of questions that I did not address in that book. They asked me about the rest of my family’. I felt these were a good follow up to Infidel.
Thanks for those recommendations GMac.
I want to read more of her books but getting the time is the main problem. Although I am now fully retired there are simply not enough hours in the day to do everything that I wish to do. Ali is an absolutely amazing woman. I have enormous admiration and respect for her and what she has achieved.
Yes, I know the feeling, a big list of things to do. I find Ayaan’s writing is articulate and offers a sense of optimism in overcoming (or attempting to overcome) a doogmatic view of life.
Pity that she, as did the Hitch, went to the dark side and became an unhinged booster of the hegemon.
Check out her nutcase hubby, another brit – like Hitch – turned big brain fish in the small intellectual pond (more puddle really) of the USofAholes for the sanctuary of that green(ish) passport.