The Australian government’s resolve to stay in the war in Afghanistan has again been called into question following the grim news yesterday that another three Australian soldiers have been killed. Embarking on an early morning raid against the Taliban, three commandos died and seven were injured after a helicopter crashed at around 3:00am Afghan time.
In the last fortnight there have been five Australian casualties, bringing the total Australian causalities in Afghanistan to 16. Yesterday’s tragedy arrived on the same day as a new Essential Report poll revealing 61% of Australians believe our troops should be sent back home.
Possum Comitatus writes:
61% of respondents think Australia should withdraw our troops from Afghanistan, 24% think we should keep the same number and 7% think we should increase numbers.
Support for withdrawal of troops has increased by 11% since this question was asked in March last year.There was majority support for withdrawal of troops across all demographic groups and voter types. 55% of Liberal/National voters, 61% of Labor voters and 75% of Greens voters support withdrawal of Australia’s troops.
With the Dutch pulling their troops out later this year and the Canadians planning a 2011 exit, pressure is mounting for the Rudd government to make some noise about possible withdrawal strategies.
Is it time to count our losses and send the troops home?
Here’s what the pundits say:
The Age
Michelle Grattan: Poll shows most want our troops withdrawn
This is an unpopular war in Australia but one that is remarkably uncontentious politically. Both sides support the commitment – indeed, Tony Abbott would like to see more Australian troops there in a higher profile role – but neither wants to make the war a focus of domestic political attention.
Daniel Flitton: Price to pay for staying on course
But with five Australians killed in a fortnight, persuading people that the war is advancing in the right direction becomes all the more difficult.
Sydney Morning Herald
Hamish McDonald: ‘One of the worst examples of wartime leadership’
The wider US strategy of grabbing territory, establishing security for the people and bringing in the civil administration is faltering. There are not enough foreign soldiers or trained Afghans to hold the ground and no administration to bring in.
The Australian
Greg Sheridan: Long road ahead to win the war
If we want to win in Afghanistan, we are going to be there for many years to come, in substantial numbers.
Herald Sun
John Hamilton: What are we doing here?
Now is the time to ask – how long will this deadly war continue, and how long are we prepared to risk more young Australian lives in its prosecution? Prime Minister Kevin Rudd has repeatedly said that there is no “blank cheque” for our troop involvement in Afghanistan. The time might now be right to write a figure for a withdrawal date on the cheque form and cross it “not negotiable” when presenting it to America and our other allies.
I’m sad about our losses. But we must keep fighting. We are fighting the good fight, against a terrible enemy, and now is not the time to run away.
Well Troy c, join up and fight the ” good fight” ? When is the time to leave ? USA are there for the next 40 years ! This is another Super Base for America to protect THEIR OIL and GAS supplies in Pipe-a- stan. We have not learnt from Vietnam , the French, Poms and Russia have wasted years and lives in this country and it will send USA broke (MORE BROKE).
The problem, friends, is that there is no obvious exit plan that doesn’t ultimately hand victory to the Taliban and recreate a rogue state strategically located smack bang between Iran, Pakistan Russia and China (with of course India a hardly disinterested bystander). Just think about the implications for global stability if they were left to sort it out amongst themselves…..
Lets just get out quickly. Veit Nam showed that these type of wars are unwinnable.
We are in there only so Howard could play the Maggie Thatcher card to win an election.
A very small man with much blood on his hands.
Mack the Knife, so true.
Troy, who are we fighting against?
What the rest of Michelle Grattan’s column said, which is not quoted here, is that we are there because of the US alliance. Its turning into Vietnam all over again. We shouldn’t have been involved in this or the Iraq war in the first place, so its time to withdraw everybody and that includes ‘trainers’ and other ‘support’ staff.