I was intrigued to see the idea of a Citizen’s Assembly hit the headlines today. Why wouldn’t I be having suggested the same thing a few years ago? Here’s a post on Club Troppo from 2005:
I suggest that we choose an assembly of citizens by lot (at random) from the electoral role. Those citizens would then be given the option of participating in a third house of Parliament. I don’t suggest overturning representative democracy, so I think it would be unacceptable to give the chamber the blocking power of the House or the Senate. But, to give the new chamber some teeth I’d give it the power to initiate bills and a delaying power like the House of Lords in the UK which can delay legislation (I think for one year) but cannot block it indefinitely. (It could not block budget bills).
The most visceral response I guess I’ll get is ‘not more politicians’. But they’re not politicians. They’re citizens. There’s more cost involved, but its not a major consideration if one thinks this might improve the quality of our democracy.
The advantages are that we would develop a chamber where there really was a legitimate voice of the people. Further that voice would not be ignorant like a vox pop is. I expect the vast majority of people in the chamber would be conscientious in trying to understand the issues on which they spoke and voted. From time to time the process would turn up political talent which could then work its way through the party system. I think politics is one of those professions like policing and psychotherapy which tends to attract people who should be doing something else! This process might well turn up some people who were uninterested in the self assertion and/or struggle that politics involves, who might nevertheless become major contributors to our political culture.
It’s disappointing that the idea has been scorned so instantly by various operatives around the traps. Of course the atmospherics for its introduction might have been better – this is a rescue operation with the alternative political heroics having fallen over. But I find it hard to see how anything but good can come from such an experiment.
The essence of these things is for them to reinvigorate, reinvent and relegitimate democracy. At the moment, there’s an absence of deliberative democracy because anything that can be focus grouped or discussed to a worthwhile conclusion (like an ETS, an RRT or a GST) can go from being conventional wisdom to electoral poison with the expenditure of a few million dollars telling how [insert policy] is dreadfully unfair to [insert demographic or celebrity] and will beggar us all.
As I’ve argued recently and not so recently the Accord was a great success essentially because it performed that function. And I expect that well done, the people’s chamber can do it too. You see there’s nothing much in the idea.
The 2020 Summit was a similar idea but it was implemented in a daze, without any thought about what the government wanted out of it. The people’s chamber has promise because a government that wants to lead can use it to lead — and it can offload a lot of the burden of what I call political heroics (where the goverment leads as it did with the RRT or John Hewson did with the GST and everyone else gets to take potshots at it from the sidelines.)
And as I’ve mused, maybe Gillard is the kind of politician who can pull this off. But remembering all those people trying to wish their thoughts and values into Rudd’s head, I could be doing the same thing. Only time will tell.
Still, even if I’m cynical I still find it hard to believe that the people’s chamber won’t lead to good things. I had no such hopes of the 2020 Summit. Actually that’s wrong. I did have hopes. High hopes and low expectations.
I’m sorry, but we don’t need a people’s group advising the PM about community consensus on climate change. Climate change is a science, not something you measure by opinion poll. What we need is action. Consensus was reached a long time ago and the Gillard Government has completely squandered it.
The only thing that will keep her in office is the fact that the alternative is so genuinely disasteful to most people.
I will delete all the swear words and make one simple point. Mr Gruen seems to take the view that the problems with a parliamentary democracy is that it is composed of politicians who, somehow, are not genetically the same as the rest of us. There is no evidence for this view.
The fact is that if there were some sort of community assembly it would be assembled and organised in much the same way as parliaments are. There would be a selection process. There would be rules and agendas and time limits and points of order and all the other mechanisms that make group discussion and decision-making possible. There would be factions, tendencies, lobbying, bias, influence peddling, lying, (and, of course, some honesty) momentary inattention, and all the other phenomena you strike, for example, in the owners corporation of a medium sized block of strata units.
Contrary to the view apparently espoused by Mr Gruen the assembly would not be a glorious, natural, organic, gleaming, sweetly smelling device for truth and beauty. It would be another parliament, and we already have a few of those.
I cannot discuss what I think of the Gillard view and the Gillard motivations without reintroducing swear words so I won’t. Global warming caused by human activity is a real threat. Any government worth voting for should do something about it. Labor demonstrably will not. LNP, that interesting collection of neanderthals who live in snug little humpies made of their own armpit hair only emerging to yap at anything they don’t understand (which pretty much means everything) will not – they might have to sell the 4 wheel drive and move down to a Corolla. Heaven forfend.
That really means that, no matter how much we might despise tofu, anyone of any intelligence and judgment has little choice this time but to vote green whenever they can.
I agree with the idea of a Citizen’s Assembly but I disagree with the idea of selecting folk at random from the electoral role. The key problem with harvesting Jo Average for this type of role is that the majority of power inherent in the role would be exercised via the media pipeline. The flaw in having an uninformed / untrained opinion trying to weld influence can be clearly seen today by the boat people media frenzy. If ever there was a policy built around appealing to the lowest common denominator that would have to be it.
Australia would be far better served by instituting a third arm of government whose incumbents were ex-Prime Ministers. Put them on (sometime after leaving office) as life members, Australia’s tribal elders. As an assembly it’d end up with an informed bipartisan constituent that would actually (well, more likely) be capable of offering genuinely useful opinions to the leading government of the day; informed public opinions from those who understand the political leadership struggle.
And for anyone thinking these ex-leaders would just become party mouth pieces I urge you to consider the recent revelations around Malcolm Frazer quitting his party membership in disgust. A representative body of ex political leaders offering public opinions would be something that even the most myopic politicians and journalists currently deciding the content of our country’s political agenda would take notice of. And attaching that Assembly in some way to the Office of the Governor General might even produce something of a common ground compromise between the apparently irreconcilable Republican and Monarchist movements.
I’ll support this ‘government by jury’ on one condition: NO LAWYERS ALLOWED.
As for the ex-incumbent idea – isn’t this just the old ‘McGarvie Model’ from the Constitutional Convention (remember THAT citizens assembly?) that wanted a Council of Elders.
Hang on! Assembly of Citizens + Council of Elders! We’ve just reinvented the HOUSE OF COMMONS AND THE HOUSE OF LORDS. Argh!