Another week, another fashionable anti-Romney candidate for Republicans to focus on. Even while last week’s mini-boom for Newt Gingrich is still drawing headlines, a new Bloomberg poll gives heart to perennial candidate Ron Paul.
Paul leads Romney in Iowa, the first state to vote, by two points, 19% to 17%, in what is almost a four-way dead heat: Gingrich is on 18%, while Herman Cain still narrowly holds the lead at 20%. Among those who say they’ve made up their minds, however, Paul is well clear with 32%.
This isn’t particularly surprising; back in August, Paul came second in the Iowa straw poll, only 0.9% behind Michele Bachmann, whose chances have since been written off.
But this is a good time to talk about Paul, since American military adventurism is in the news again, with the plan to station US marines in Darwin as a counterweight to Chinese power. Paul is easily the most anti-military of the Republicans: he would bring all of America’s troops home, withdraw from NATO and the United Nations, and slash defence spending (as well as pretty much every other sort of spending).
That’s not the only thing that puts him outside the Republican mainstream. He’s also opposed to drug prohibition and, as he made clear in the most recent televised debate, he’s against torture: which, shockingly, was very much the minority position. Cain, Bachmann and Rick Perry were all enthusiastic about dragging their country back to the 16th century, while even Romney avoided any condemnation of torture.
Barack Obama promptly moved to take advantage with a statement against waterboarding: “That’s not who we are. That’s not how we operate.” That statement, however, would seem to put him in breach of America’s mandatory obligations under the Convention against Torture to investigate and punish instances of torture; the lack of any moves to do so suggests that even Obama is not sure how far public opinion is on his side.
Among the Republican base, there’s not much doubt that Paul’s views are unpopular. Although he fits the Tea Party template in other ways — he is virulently anti-choice, and exudes the standard disrespect for blacks, Mexicans and the poor — it is generally assumed that defence and national security have become so central to the Republican position that a dissenter on them has no real chance at the nomination.
The next couple of months will test whether that conventional wisdom is correct. There’s no doubt that Paul has a passionately loyal following (the internet is his particular strength), and among this field his extremism and general crankiness are not enough to rule him out. And since almost everyone else has had their moment in the sun it’s only fair for Paul to have his turn, until and unless voters take fright at his scepticism about the military.
For what it’s worth, I think they will. Although there have been occasional Republican grumblings against the war in Afghanistan and rather more against the intervention in Libya, the party has a huge emotional investment in the national security state, as evidenced by its continued refusal to countenance cuts in military spending.
It seems that the Republican Party has a capacity to distinguish between different sorts of military intervention. Wars that showcase American power, like Iraq and Afghanistan, are praiseworthy; “nation-building” exercises, which might actually help people (Bosnia, Somalia, Libya), meet with disapproval. Paul, who opposes both, just looks like the candidate who didn’t get the memo.
No doubt Ron Paul has many faults, but this time it’s his virtues that will sink him.
As usual Charles, your reading too much mainsttream media for your opinions.
First, Paul is not “ ….virulently anti-choice, and exudes the standard disrespect for blacks,
Mexicans and the poor”. Tell us exactly how you arrived at that clanger.
Second, All the research data I’ve read shows that Paul’s chances of picking up a huge protest vote against Obama & the DC political elites, remain strong. Upwards of 50% of both registered Democrats & Republicans haven’t yet decided, with a substantial number of Democrats saying they’re voting for Paul this time round.
You’re reading too much MIC/AIPAC controlled news service reports, all of whom are blacking out Paul’s success…so much for the free preess in the good ol US of A.
At this stage, Ron Paul must be an even money chance to win the GOP Presidential nomination.
@Kevin: Paul’s anti-choice views are a matter of public record. See, for example, this page from his 2008 campaign: http://web.archive.org/web/20071024143701/http://www.ronpaul2008.com/issues/life-and-liberty/ (“The right of an innocent, unborn child to life is at the heart of the American ideals of liberty”). His views on blacks, Mexicans and the poor are less explicit, but I’ve been reading his stuff for nearly 25 years (I was living in the US when he was the Libertarian Party nominee in 1988) and I think “exudes disrespect” is a fair summary of the impression he creates – I don’t pretend to judge whether that reflects his personal views or whether it’s a matter of the people he’s trying to appeal to or the crowd he’s involved with.
No doubt there’s a protest vote out there, and I think he might do reasonably well, but he’ll need more than that to win the nomination (remember many Republican primaries don’t allow Democrats to vote in them). He’ll need a large slice of the tea partiers and their fellow-travellers, and I just don’t think he’ll get it: the evidence is that they’re more rather than less keen on the military compared to the average Republican.
I’ve just checked the odds at Sportsbet and you can get 7-1 against Paul for the nomination. I think that’s pretty stingy; I’d say the real odds are more like 20-1. But if you think he’s even money, you must think you’re on a good thing. We’ll see who’s right.
Thanks for the clarification Charles.
As for who’s right…while the outcome is an undergraduate challenge between you & I,
I feel that if Ron Paul’s ideas are not adopted into the US political
mainstream, then the decline of the current US unipolar empire will be greatlt hastened at the expense, as always in such situations historically, of the US middle & working classes
FWIW, I agree with Charles at 4:58 pm. One listens to him talk and you think he is not halfway sensible but then you read his written policy on some things and it is the opposite of libertarianism. In fact it is that peculiar mix of American Puritanism and laissez faire that only works for a segment of the population (think WASP) and is unsustainable in the long term (actually about now). His small government philosophy is partly true in his home state of Texas with typical consequences (poorest educational attainments of their schools, lowest health insurance coverage, 10% of employees below minimum wage; soaring unemployment). Paul’s and Texan’s overwheening gugn-ho attitudes and confidence that their way is the way comes from $32o billion from the oil and gas industry every year.
On the other hand I agree that the US should withdraw its troops from most if not all foreign locations, especially Europe. That doesn’t necessarily mean it withdraw from NATO but it would leave it mostly to the Europeans. Indeed bring Russia into NATO! Russia and Germany and old Warsaw-Pact Eastern Europe just want to trade these days. The presence of giant American bases in northern Asia does not stabilize anything, it destabilizes. They seem to be itching for a stand-up confrontation with China over the South China Sea but how does anyone think the US would react if China had a full aircraft carrier group sail to the very edge of the territorial limit of the Hawaiian islands, let alone the US mainland? Or sell massive offensive weapons and fighter aircraft to, say, Cuba?
Anyway, Paul always picks up protest votes in early stages but he will never be a serious candidate. The Gingrich surge is similar and a reflection of the absence of real candidates to pick up on this protest (the kind of people who once voted Palin or Bachmann). They’ll both fade quickly once the contest gets serious. Even if Romney falters and falls, neither Paul nor Gingrich are Plan B. There is no Plan B. It reflects the impossible set of grievances and aspirations that a big lump of Republicans have deluded themselves over for about 3 decades (since Reagan). As most experts agree, even Reagan would not be the favoured primary candidate these days.
Nope, it will not pass even a small part of my original post. I give up.
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