We present, without comment, an interview this morning between hard-hitting radio truth-seeker Alan Jones and Education Minister and “very good communicator” Christopher Pyne. We’ve removed Pyne’s responses because, really, they’re not necessary …

ALAN JONES: Into all of this steps Christopher Pyne, the quite brilliant advocate for the government, the Education Minister who had to, for the last week, endure the allegation that his government, the Abbott government — and he’s the leader of the House — is ripping $80 billion out of health and education. He’s on the line with more serious things to deal with. Christopher Pyne from Melbourne, good morning.

CHRISTOPHER PYNE: …

ALAN JONES: People are asking today what circumstance would prevent you and Prime Minister Abbott from cancelling a visit to Deakin University in Geelong because of security concerns.

CHRISTOPHER PYNE: …

ALAN JONES: So the Leader of the Government in the House and the Prime Minister yield to these thugs.

CHRISTOPHER PYNE: …

ALAN JONES: But doesn’t the prime minister of Australia then say, well, I’m sorry it’s not good enough. You, the Federal Police, put whatever reinforcements are needed to guarantee the safety of these people, and if it means carting these thugs away and locking them up, well, cart them away and lock them up, but we can’t send this signal to the world that a prime minister and a senior minister are going to be intimidated by thugs.

CHRISTOPHER PYNE: …

ALAN JONES: I find that astonishing, but it’s a funny world we live in and a very sad world if it’s come to this.

CHRISTOPHER PYNE: …

ALAN JONES: This will embolden these people. They’ll be able to stop Hockey and anyone, Julie Bishop, go anywhere. They say, hang on, there’s a few innocent people on the sidelines might be hurt. They’ll say let’s go, we’ve knocked off Abbott, we’ve knocked off Pyne, now we take them one by one right across Australia. When does someone say this is not the way it happens?

CHRISTOPHER PYNE: …

ALAN JONES: Well, I trust you’ll remind them that there are unpaid fees owed to the taxpayer in excess of $30 billion of HECS fees aren’t paid. The poor taxpayer who’s rolled up his sleeves and gone to work and hasn’t got time to protest is funding these people.

CHRISTOPHER PYNE: …

ALAN JONES: Good on you, good comment.