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Venise Alstergren
15 years ago
FD. How gloriously apposite. Birds do it, bees do it, even educated fleas do it. THEY EXERCISE RESTRAINT. Not so our pig-shit footballers. Male bonding as an indoor sport; a gang-bang whilst on-lookers masturbate on the unfortunate victim. Shudder, shudder. Shudder shudder. Carn Aussie Oi oi oi!
As for Sam Newman-actually I’ve never seen him on TV, as I happen to loathe footy but I did see a painting of him at Joels. I quite liked it. /there’s our Sam naked and displaying his v good body. It was also a v good sort of visual pun with sporting references.
I can’t help but think the guy is gay. His bitchy anti-female comments are a dead give-away.
PS.Once again, many thanks for your help.
Lotsa luv
Venise
Venise Alstergren
15 years ago
PS. Why can we not print the occasional comment any more? I don’t mean the writers of blogs, but the people who comment on these comments. If you know what I mean.
Oh brave and noble dog.
It takes a lot of courage to finally display those elephants in the room without their eyes blocked out!!…………..They’ll never forget you.
Vicki Grieves
15 years ago
Venise – thank you for so eloquently expressing my views entirely! Also, these men who see themselves as more manly than most participate in ‘group sex’ as a homosexual activity, the aim of it is to enjoy your fellows (not the woman who is denigrated, a whore, not a goddess). In spite of FD’s consideration of this act throughout the species, cant help but suspect that this is an Australian cultural value and practice of manhood – a tradition passed down from the days of the gendered conquest, mateship forged in societies notable for the absence of women and of course convictism. Men, who assume they are in control, as victims of historical tradition, now there’s a twist…
Evan Beaver
15 years ago
Hmmmm, FD, I like the cartoon, and I’m only replying here because there are few other forums.
This whole mess, from start to finish stinks like so much elephant dung. I suspect very strongly that the Cronulla boys have done the wrong thing, in Christchurch 7 years ago. But, really, they’re only Rugby League players, so what do you expect?
On the flipside, I think Johns has been treated disgracefully, particularly by the media. The ABC doco was a hatchet job reminiscent of the halcyon days of ACA and foot in door journalism. His treatment and commentary in the media have made it virtually impossible to have a fair trial, and also, it’s removed any chance of the others involved stepping forward.
There’s been some dreadful moralising in the media as well, suggesting that group shagging, under any circumstances is objectively wrong, and the boys should have known this. This is straying into dangerous territory, where other sensual deviancy becomes the fodder of newspapers to tut tut anyone not involved in missionary-hetero-sex. Miranda Divine, I’m looking at you.
Sorry for the tirade, in what is a pretty funny cartoon, but we need to be careful to fully identify which issue exactly we are responding too. 2 wrongs definitely don’t make anything right, and hanging Johns out to dry in public humiliation and destruction does nothing to change the past. I just hope to Christ he doesn’t top himself.
FD. How gloriously apposite. Birds do it, bees do it, even educated fleas do it. THEY EXERCISE RESTRAINT. Not so our pig-shit footballers. Male bonding as an indoor sport; a gang-bang whilst on-lookers masturbate on the unfortunate victim. Shudder, shudder. Shudder shudder. Carn Aussie Oi oi oi!
As for Sam Newman-actually I’ve never seen him on TV, as I happen to loathe footy but I did see a painting of him at Joels. I quite liked it. /there’s our Sam naked and displaying his v good body. It was also a v good sort of visual pun with sporting references.
I can’t help but think the guy is gay. His bitchy anti-female comments are a dead give-away.
PS.Once again, many thanks for your help.
Lotsa luv
Venise
PS. Why can we not print the occasional comment any more? I don’t mean the writers of blogs, but the people who comment on these comments. If you know what I mean.
Oh brave and noble dog.
It takes a lot of courage to finally display those elephants in the room without their eyes blocked out!!…………..They’ll never forget you.
Venise – thank you for so eloquently expressing my views entirely! Also, these men who see themselves as more manly than most participate in ‘group sex’ as a homosexual activity, the aim of it is to enjoy your fellows (not the woman who is denigrated, a whore, not a goddess). In spite of FD’s consideration of this act throughout the species, cant help but suspect that this is an Australian cultural value and practice of manhood – a tradition passed down from the days of the gendered conquest, mateship forged in societies notable for the absence of women and of course convictism. Men, who assume they are in control, as victims of historical tradition, now there’s a twist…
Hmmmm, FD, I like the cartoon, and I’m only replying here because there are few other forums.
This whole mess, from start to finish stinks like so much elephant dung. I suspect very strongly that the Cronulla boys have done the wrong thing, in Christchurch 7 years ago. But, really, they’re only Rugby League players, so what do you expect?
On the flipside, I think Johns has been treated disgracefully, particularly by the media. The ABC doco was a hatchet job reminiscent of the halcyon days of ACA and foot in door journalism. His treatment and commentary in the media have made it virtually impossible to have a fair trial, and also, it’s removed any chance of the others involved stepping forward.
There’s been some dreadful moralising in the media as well, suggesting that group shagging, under any circumstances is objectively wrong, and the boys should have known this. This is straying into dangerous territory, where other sensual deviancy becomes the fodder of newspapers to tut tut anyone not involved in missionary-hetero-sex. Miranda Divine, I’m looking at you.
Sorry for the tirade, in what is a pretty funny cartoon, but we need to be careful to fully identify which issue exactly we are responding too. 2 wrongs definitely don’t make anything right, and hanging Johns out to dry in public humiliation and destruction does nothing to change the past. I just hope to Christ he doesn’t top himself.