Long-term Crikey readers will recall an amusing kerfuffle over polling in 2007, when Labor under Kevin Rudd took a truly colossal two-party-preferred (2PP) lead over John Howard’s Coalition that at one point reached 61-39.
The Australian’s Dennis Shanahan, dismayed that he had to report such terrible news fortnight after fortnight, developed a variety of ways to downplay a looming Labor landslide. His main tactic was to dismiss voting intention as a reliable indicator of, well, voting intention, and instead argue that other indicators were more important — especially preferred prime minister, where John Howard trailed Rudd by a lot less.
Indeed, in the middle of the year, Howard reduced Rudd’s lead on that indicator to single figures, even though Labor still held a 55-45 lead. Every pro-Howard shift on preferred PM was lauded by Shanahan as the start of Howard’s triumphant comeback. Sadly, the comeback never materialised, and eventually Shanahan dumped preferred PM, where Rudd stubbornly maintained a lead, and started claiming other, more obscure indicators like “best at handling national security” as the “crucial” indicator that showed Howard would hang on.
These Comical Ali-like Shanahanigans induced widespread mockery, though in the absence of social media that mockery tended to play out in outlets like Crikey. But despite Shanahan’s humiliation, the idea that some leadership-based indicator is a more reliable indicator of how people might vote than how they say they will vote dies hard — despite electoral experience beforehand and since then. John Hewson was preferred PM to Keating in the six Newspolls leading up to March 1993 and he lost. Paul Keating was preferred PM over John Howard in the five Newspolls before the 1996 election and he lost. Julia Gillard held a double-digit lead over Tony Abbott ahead of the 2010 election and still nearly lost. Kevin Rudd led Abbott as preferred PM in all but 2 Newspolls, and Abbott only led him by two points at the death — but Abbott still won by a landslide.
However, the Coalition’s recent polling travails have seen preferred PM once again dragged out to do God’s work, by Shanahan’s successor (after an interregnum of common sense from Phillip Hudson) Simon Benson. Last month, Benson declared, “Bill Shorten’s leadership is poised to come under renewed internal pressure, with Malcolm Turnbull opening up the largest margin over his political rival in more than two years …”
Shorten’s leadership, of course, is rarely not under pressure in the pages of the national broadsheet, but the problem was always what would happen if Turnbull’s lead as preferred PM fell… which it promptly did in the poll reported today. Cue collapse of stout party. “The Turnbull government lacks policy coherence, party unity and remains crippled by a failure of political management,” Benson wrote today. “The consensus is that it is sleepwalking to likely defeat.” More tellingly, Benson abandoned the main Shanahanigan, preferred PM. “The critical message from the electorate is this: the relative popularity of both leaders, or lack of it, is no longer the key driver of votes.”
“No longer”? It never was. Voters vote the way they do because of health services, the management of the economy and jobs, and education. They’ve repeatedly voted in governments — sometimes by a landslide — despite preferring the other side’s leader.
And far from “sleepwalking to likely defeat”, the Newspoll result is hardly bad news for the Coalition. It again confirms that the government, especially since getting rid of Barnaby Joyce, has closed Labor’s big 2PP lead that marked last year and early this year — and it is within striking distance, even though we know the government is in deep trouble in Queensland. The Coalition’s challenge is to make up as much ground again as it has since the start of the year, and the worry is that its recent momentum has stalled. But with an election not until autumn/winter next year, there’s plenty of time.
As bad as the 2PP polling has been for team Turmoil I mean Turnbull, the election campaign is where the ALP will draw away from the Coalition. The electorate are waiting with a big stick to whack the Coalition for their promise and failure to manage Government in a less chaotic way that RGR had.
I cant wait for election night, my bet is that the results will be well known by 9.15pm, which will give us the delicious prospect of having an hour of dejected Coalition “talking heads” on the telly before Mal is forced to squeeze out another one of his rousing election night speeches. It’ll be his last ever chance to vilify Shorten for winning the campaign and the people for rejecting him.
Parliament is sitting again Bernard. The lead will blow out again. This has literally been the pattern of Turnbull’s PMship. The lead ebbs and blows with Parliamentary sittings, because these are the times Turnbull and the Coalition are exposed to the public.
Look at today, all this mess with Barnaby Joyce holding Turnbull to ransom over the NEG. This happens every time the circus is in town, and the waverers go right back to the ALP in the polls.
What I’m saying is this: the likes of Mark Kenny have been rightly mocked for taking every opportunity to proclaim that THIS TIME Turnbull is turning the corner, really, honest, only to be proven wrong (and of course never acknowledging they got it wrong). Maybe give it another fortnight before doing a Kenny.
Well said, Arky!
Still think Labor will be elected to form the next government…but the margin will become evident closer to the actual election.
Bernard will need to have another look around February/March next year…IMHO.
Yep. Sitting weeks are always a disaster for this government. And Turnbull’s penchant for drawn out elections lead-ins has not helped the LNP at either the 2016 DD election or the five recent by-elections. He has a tin ear.
And maybe you mean Chris Kenny rather than Mark?
No, I meant Mark.
I like Bernard too much to compare him to Chris.
Mark Kenny is merely a poor pundit who gets it wrong and never so much as offers up a mea culpa or even the slightest hint that the opinions he offers could be wrong.
Chris Kenny is actively malignant and what the Chaser famously said about him was an insult… to the dogs.
I have noticed how few of Mark Kenny’s pieces have been open for comment this year. I read him but find him very wishy-washy. His appearances on Insiders seem to me to be better than his written stuff.
Mark Kenny? The Dum – telling us all that “there isn’t a racist bone in Turnbull’s body” – when the topic was “Melbourne African Gangs”, with Turnbull breaking out that dog-whistle.
Compared to ex-Murdoch scribe David Crowe currently shilling for Turnbull in Fairfax, Mark Kenny is the very exemplar of wisdom, but the bar is low. Peter Hartcher couldn’t get over it either. Fairfax foolishly sacked Michaels Pascoe and West, for which alone they deserve to suffer.
Oh Bernard, you’re a very funny man sometimes. Elections held since 2016-including the recent by-elections-have suggested that Newspoll might be losing its edge in the accuracy department, especially since they changed how preferences are distributed.
Even ignoring that, though, how can you call this a Coalition recovery when their primary vote dropped by 2 percent? This whilst parliament hasn’t even been sitting. The Coalition have nowhere to go but down, as more revelations crop up in relation to Michaelia Cash’s office & the GBRF shenanigans.
Come on Bernard, what exactly is the fascination with journalists trying to flog the dead horse over the line? Turnbull shows No signs of political judgement, is the leader of a hamfisted team, incapable of any coherent policies including handing over a whopping $440 million to a corporate charity, with a staff of six, with no tender and in one lump sum.
Election night cannot come soon enough.
Oh gawd, here we go again, I am so sick of polls, reporting on polls, media bloviating about polls. Remember how Truffles was going to easily get back Longman and possibly Braddon?
In fairness- the national Newspolls have had a pretty good track record.
The individual seat polls (not just Newspoll, all the majors) have been terrible for years – and mostly in the Coalition’s favor (this is objectively true, go read Kevin Bonham’s blog before accusing me of being a one-eyes conspiracy theorist).
You’d think after individual seat polls missed the Tasmanian seats so badly on election night 2016 it might have been a warning, but no, we still had to put up with this idea that the seat polling in Braddon and Longman would be reliable and was the basis of 2 months of leadership scaremongering.
Actually, they messed up the Queensland & Western Australian State election results.
It would be worth Crikey’s time either getting William Bowe to cover these topics or just paying Kevin Bonham to run versions of his pieces on seat-polling and on margin-of-error.
(It would also be worth all political journos’ time READING these pieces, but baby steps)
http://kevinbonham.blogspot.com/2018/07/why-is-seat-polling-so-inaccurate.html
http://kevinbonham.blogspot.com/2018/08/margin-of-error-polling-myths.html