The message from central bankers here and abroad on balancing the management of the pandemic versus the economy is now very different to that put forward by the Morrison government.
It suggests either that the latter have allowed partisanship and a desire to shift responsibility for the recession onto the Victoria government, or they don’t understand that the framing of lockdown versus the economy is deeply flawed.
For months now, the Reserve Bank has been explaining that lockdowns are not the only factor affecting the economy. The economy’s primary problem is a lack of demand, and uncertainty is a key contributor to that lack of demand. This is governor Philip Lowe right back in May:
One obvious source of uncertainty is the pace at which the various restrictions are eased. The faster that the restrictions can be lifted safely, the sooner and stronger the economic bounce-back will be and the less economic scarring will take place. But this is not the only source of uncertainty. Another source of uncertainty is the level of confidence that people have about their future, both in terms of their health and their own finances. It is interesting that the initial evidence is that countries that have had fewer restrictions are also experiencing very large contractions in economic activity. This suggests that voluntary decisions that people have made in response to the uncertainty about their health and their finances is also playing a major role.
Lowe, it turned out, perfectly anticipated the outcome in Sweden, where, infamously, the government avoided draconian lockdown measures, only for the economy to slump significantly more than Australia’s as Swedes in effect self-imposed lockdown measures in response to the virus.
It turns out that people make up their own minds about the risk of contacting a potentially lethal virus, regardless of what governments do.
Just to bolster the message, Lowe has repeated it since then. Lowe’s July meeting statement explained “uncertainty about the health situation and the future strength of the economy is making many households and businesses cautious, and this is affecting consumption and investment plans”.
In his August statement to a parliamentary committee he said “people’s attitudes to spending are changing because of the pandemic. It is probable that households and businesses will remain more cautious and that this will affect consumption and investment.”
What the Morrison government, and much of the business community and its shills like Jennifer Westacott, don’t get is that removing lockdown is not going to restore confidence: only when people are no longer concerned about the risk of dying, or infecting a loved one, will they lose their caution and start spending.
It’s also a lesson that Adam “lockdowns don’t work” Schwab doesn’t understand, possibly because, as head of a travel agency, his salary depends on his not getting it. What doesn’t work is not having lockdowns.
Lowe and the RBA aren’t alone on this. If anything, US Federal Reserve chairman Jerome Powell has been more forthright.
“The path forward for the economy is extraordinarily uncertain and will depend in large part on our success in containing the virus,” he said in June. “A full recovery is unlikely until people are confident that it is safe to reengage in a broad range of activities.”
Last week Powell repeated the message: “So the key thing for the economic recovery and also just in general is to get the spread of the disease well and truly under control. And that was always going to be very important in supporting, as rapid as possible, a reopening, a sustainable reopening of the economy.”
Note “sustainable”. Without the virus being under control, you can reopen the economy, but you’ll end up having to close it again, like we’ve seen in Victoria, like we saw in many southern US states.
The approach seemingly preferred by the federal government, which holds that NSW is the “gold standard” of pandemic management, is to let virus cases continue to tick over at a low level, leaving the possibility of contracting it as the background radiation of ordinary life.
Perhaps a year or two of such exposure will dull people to the idea, and they’ll eventually drift back to pre-COVID spending and working patterns.
It’s certainly a policy option, but a risky one, given the possibility of a major outbreak flaring up, and it entails many quarters of low demand and low investment. Spain, France, Britain are all now seeing a worrying end of summer surge in new infections. What’s that going to do for those economies heading into 2021?
It’s unlikely that Morrison and his colleagues are thinking that far ahead.
The pile-on on Daniel Andrews and his risk-averse, meandering road map out of lockdown looks more like a mixture of partisanship, justified fury at the incompetence of the Andrews government in allowing the outbreak to occur, and a desire to ensure voters know that the blame for what could be a third consecutive quarter of economic contraction belongs in Melbourne.
But pretending that a sustainable recovery is just a matter of rushing to reopen ignores the clear advice from central bankers that governments don’t control how consumers think, and that they’ll make their own decisions about spending, regardless of the views of politicians, business and commentators.
“justified fury at the incompetence of the Andrews government in allowing the outbreak to occur”
Sigh! You were doing so well, Bernard, until you mentioned Dan. Then, it seems you just couldn’t help yourself. I don’t know what’s between you and him, but it’s pretty vicious.
That four infected people of the many hundreds (thousands?) of returning travellers managed to slip through the cracks and give rise to the second wave speaks to me of human error, not incompetence.
Can you honestly, and WITHOUT the benefit of hindsight, suggest what the Victorian government should have done differently at the time? Install armed police at the hotel doors of weary returning travellers for two weeks? Or military personnel? I can just imagine what the Murdoch press and Crikey would have been able to do with that …
And also given:
What magic wand would you have made to ensure 100% containment?
This virus is such a tricky beast that not even New Zealand’s approach could vanquish the virus for good. Sadly, its ability to survive long periods on surfaces-especially in cold conditions-makes it exeptionally nasty.
Note that NZ didn’t break out into hundreds of new cases a day and triple the national death toll. Putting the goalposts at no cases getting through at all is just silly. We need better ways to contain the outbreaks and we need it yesterday if any sort of strategy is to work. Vic have taken some steps to improve their contact tracing but we should all be embarrassed that it took covid-19 to get these things in place. Not even the 2nd pandemic of the 21st century. So obviously necessary that TV writers could see the need.
The problem is not that there was a breakout, but that Victoria bowed to pressure and kept relaxing restrictions in June even when there was demonstrated community transmission, which is probably why they’re not taking any chances this time around and maybe over-compensating.
NZ had a more coherent set of stages which depended basically on eliminating community transmission, whereas Victoria just held their breath and hoped it was a ‘blip’, which is why Victoria messed it up.
It is well worth noting that, way back in January-February, experts were urging the Federal Government to implement a Paid Pandemic Leave scheme-especially for Casual Workers……as this group was seen as the one most likely to both catch & transmit the virus. #Scottyfrommarketing refused to listen, & that is a large part of the reason why cases rose so sharply in the first month or two. Thankfully, rapid action by State Governments helped to slow the spread, usually long before Morrison was even aware the measures were needed. I still remember him urging people to go out to the footy on the final weekend of February. That is emblematic of his “leadership” during this crisis.
Yes, and what about that fantastic Covid contact tracing app? Scotty (from marketing) was almost demanding everybody use the app. It would solve all virus transmission he said. What the hell happened?
Now he never mentions it and it is all down to DAN Andrews’s Victoria.
Nor do we hear of him offering to accept blame if Victoria backs down under his bullying, and a third lockdown becomes needed.
Apart from letting the infected passengers off the Plague Princess, that was the single greatest cause, post introduction for the rapid national spread.
It is amazing they don’t get more flack, apart from almost doing an adequate fiscal stimulus the feds have been the worst performers. Aged care being left so shabby is a disaster. I can’t let the Vic government off the hook but I would go so far as to call the aged care deaths a worse bungle than quarantine. The feds really should be the ones doing quarantine but maybe the states doing it was better. The thought of those morons running it is horrifying.
Lowe is right and there are mountains of data sets building up that confirm this.
The article mentions Sweden and we must compare that with neighbouring Denmark.
At its height with lockdown, Denmark was down 29% down, whilst Sweden with virtually no lockdown was off 25%.
We might say of Denmark that 25/29ths of the economic hit was due to consumer reaction to Covid19, and only 4/29ths due to the lockdown per se.
However, now Sweden is stuck at negative 25 and Denmark is closing in on its pre-Covid economy.
Denmark suffered 700 C19 deaths, Sweden is up to 7,000 and still rising.
Then take Texas.
The Conservative Governor implemented very light lockdown, but the economy went backwards 7%.
Texas removed restrictions..the economy is still down 5%.
Again, 5/7ths of the economic contraction is consumer confidence.
This is understandable; Texas has 4,000 deaths/week, but during the Pandemic this hit 5,000 to 5,500/week and is not abating (1500/wk from c19).
In the last few months, tens of thousands of Texans needed ICU or were very ill.
There’s nearly 90,000 active cases right now.
The Texan Governor cannot hide this so people respond predictably.
Their economy will be down 5% for a very long time.
I saw Jennifer Westacott’s comments and she, like so many of my peers in the business community, seem to hold some naive belief that consumption will recover, even whilst consumer’s have the threat of Covid 19 hanging over their head every time they step out the door.
As we can see in other economies, that path will lock in anything from 5 to 25% sustained contraction, with a massive Public Health toll at the end of it.
Increasingly the economic data suggests Elimination is also the most prudent economic strategy.
I hope they listen to Lowe…and Bernard.
I will be impressed with you Dougz when you stop cutting and pasting from the MSM.
Just a personal opinion, I found Doug put me effort into his comments than you did.
Dear Mr. Hennesy,
I have no idea what the MSM is.
But since you suggest I plagiarised, just pop in the link to the material to which you refer.
Seriously though, I am pleased how others have gone off to find data sets that we can learn from in managing the economic and public health implications of the Pandemic.
There is no shortage of data, but we need more analysts!
D
One of the worst ‘replies’ I’ve seen on this site. I’ve read most of Dougz information before, but none of it in the MSM.
You don’t even have to look as far as Scandinavia to see what a difference practical elimination makes.
Here in WA life is pretty much back to normal – the streets are busy and close friends and family are back to hugging each other. That’s what comes of the confidence that there isn’t community transmission.
There is a sense of trepidation that it will break out here, and we are hoping for a cure/vaccine before it does. In the mean time, people make hay while the sun shines – they go out for meals (restaurants run two sittings and are booked out), see live performances, work on COVID-proofing their businesses and wish the eastern states would get their act together and also eliminate community transmission so that we could drop the state borders. Until they do, everyone is backing Mr 91% Approval Rating McGowan to keep the border closed.
On another note, thank you Mr Keane for some real journalism. There is an argument for examining the Victorian approach to lockdowns (WA never went as hard on individual movement), but unfortunately Adam Schwab’s grab bag of numbers did not meet the journalistic standards I expect of Crikey.
“There is a sense of trepidation that it will break out here, and we are hoping for a cure/vaccine before it does.”
The Western Australians I speak to would totally disagree with that comment. Have you ever set foot in WA?
Jennie did say “Here in WA…” so she probably has. Also being in WA I would concur with her statement that there is definitely a recognition and some trepidation that we could also have a major flare up but I think most people realise a vaccine is a way away if ever and no guarantees there either which is why the border closures are so widely supported.
Yes, also in WA and seconding Beth’s and Jennie’s comments, for this household and our friends.
Actually, lets look at Norway, Denmark, Finland, Iceland & Sweden. the first 3 officiallylocked down very hard, Sweden did not (though nearly half the population apparently voluntarily locked down, but that is mostly hearsay based on economic activity), & Iceland only partially locked down. Here are their 2 major economic stats for the year so far (Q1, then Q2):
Denmark (GDP Growth): -2%, -6.9%; (Unemployment): 5.5%, 5.2%
Finland (GDP Growth): -1.9%, -4.5%; (Unemployment): 7.9%, 7.7%
Norway (GDP Growth): -1.7%, -5.1%; (Unemployment): 4.6%, 5.2%
Sweden (GDP Growth): +0.2%, -8.5%; (Unemployment): 9.8%, 9%.
Iceland (GDP Growth): -5.7%, -9.1%; (Unemployment): 4.1%, 6.4%
What this illustrates is that locking down the economy had minimal, if any, impact on the economies of those Countries, whereas non-lockdown Countries saw as much, or even greater, impacts on their economic performance, Yet we know that both Sweden & Iceland suffered more cases, & Sweden suffered far more deaths, than the 3 Countries who locked down.
Similar comparisons can be made between South Korea, Japan & New Zealand……which goes to show that Lockdown *can* be a very effective mid-term measure to reduce the virus spread.
Marcus, your numbers tell a compelling story.
Q3 will confirm just how much “sentiment” is driving this contraction, and how worse the “sentiment” is when you have a population very fearful as they witness an ongoing spike in deaths, ICU cases and very unwell people.
We might add to your table UK (GDP Growth): -2.2%, -20.4%.
https://www.niesr.ac.uk/latest-gdp-tracker
And if you were to put the death rate per million after each of those countries you’d see a huge spike after Sweden. I don’t know quite what SH above is suggesting we do.
Yes, per capita death rates for Norway, Denmark & Finland ranks them between 60-90 out of all the Countries effected. Sweden is 13th.
Denmarks COVID cases are currently increasing at 200 per day, Yet, they are still opening up. E.g. restaurants are not permitted new guests after 11.00 pm. Gatherings of more than 500 people are not permitted. More than 200 people are not permitted at funerals. etc etc. They have learnt from Sweden what they need to do, and they are doing it. Sweden has acknowledged that they made mistakes, and have learnt from these. Sweden is now at herd immunity and will continue to open up. Deaths are now negligible. Denmark is working toward this in a controlled manner. So is the UK and other European countries. We on the other hand are still in lock down with no end in site. We are hoping for a miracle vaccine, one day, that Fauci, WHO and others have stated is unlikely to be effective, if it ever comes at all. This is a massive risk for Australia. We are not learning from others. As Prof Michael Levitt says, we are “stand out losers”.
Care to provide any citations for you claims, Geoff? Your claim that Sweden is “at herd immunity” is nothing short of Weapons Grade bullonium. The natural immunity for Covid-19 is too short lived to achieve herd immunity, & would also require much, much higher levels of previously infected individuals. Sweden is the Country racking up an average of 250 new cases per day, compared to Denmark’s 90 cases per day…..& the latter has a significantly higher per capita testing rate. Similarly, Denmark’s death toll barely increased in the last 2 months, whereas Sweden is still racking up an average of 4 deaths per day. I suspect your other claims about Denmark, UK & Germany are equally bogus.
Also, Michael Levitt is a Protein Physicist, so what would he know about epidemiology or virology?
“justified fury at the incompetence of the Andrews government in allowing the outbreak to occur”
Outside of the usual suspects (Sky News, Victorian Opposition, Federal Government), Bernard, what fury do you refer to? Poll over poll shows majority support for Andrews…..even polls run by Newscorpse rags.
We still have a while to go before all this has fully played out. Judgements now are premature. So our economy has drifted back to what it was five years ago. What a catastrophe. Hmmm. Life then was not so bad.
The more important issue is the cover this has provided for the Federal government to introduce laws that will increase domestic surveillance, embed climate destroying gas in our energy system for years (blue bloody hydrogen for gawds sake) and thoroughly cheese off China as a stalking horse for Trump.
All of these measures will have a devastating long term effect on outer economy far worse than the time limited effects of the Corona virus with numerous fast tracked vaccines promising to nip it in the bus within twelve months or so.