The incoherence and ignorance around basic rights in a pandemic not only demonstrate Australia’s inability to rationally discuss rights issues, but come with major political ramifications, with far-right politicians both within and outside the government threatening to block or refuse to support legislation over vaccine mandates.
That’s in addition to the growing violence and extremism of some sections of what used to be the anti-lockdown movement but which, in the face of a steady return to normality, has become a generic “freedom” movement, albeit with eccentric ideas about how freedom and rights interact.
The vaccine mandate issue is straightforward. It’s entirely ethical to mandate vaccinations for social environments. No one is compelled to be vaccinated; the compulsion lies in preventing the unvaccinated from increasing the risk of harm to others by mixing with them. Indeed, there’s an argument for compelling vaccination itself, given the costs the unvaccinated inflict on society through additional health system costs, but this can be addressed through other means, such as charging them the full cost of their treatment.
However, given we don’t do this for people who take other forms of medically expensive risk — the overweight and obese, or participants in injury-prone sports — singling out the unvaccinated would be inequitable.
Nonetheless, the far right has seized on the issue despite the small numbers of vaccine refuseniks, confusing it with a broader lament about freedom. Scott Morrison can have no complaints that his legislative agenda is being frustrated by anti-mandate senators, however, given that he himself has sought to pander to the same sentiments with his attacks on state Labor governments.
The broader “freedom” protests — putting aside for a moment the Nazis, anti-vaxxers and opportunists that infest them — relate to quite different issues: freedom of movement, economic freedom and freedom from government surveillance.
There’s massive hypocrisy here. To see News Corp, which has cheered on endless rounds of extensions of government security laws in recent years, pretending to be some advocate for freedom and the rights of citizens against government, is sickening. If News Corp was the media company it pretends to be, rather than the media arm of the Liberal party, the job of the Abbott, Turnbull and Morrison governments in further restricting Australians’ basic rights for the cause of anti-terrorism would have been far harder since 2013.
And how many of those marching against lockdowns ever spoke out about mass surveillance being imposed on them, or the government giving itself the power to monitor and interfere with their online actions?
Still, hypocrisy doesn’t undermine legitimate concerns about government overreach. And the experience of two decades of the War On Terror is that government powers, once ratcheted up at the expense of citizens, are never ratcheted back down. Moreover, there are strong grounds to distrust the insistence of state and federal governments that the draconian powers used in lockdowns are employed purely on the advice of experts.
We learnt from the then-deputy premier that the Berejiklian government’s Sydney curfew was imposed because of pressure from the media, despite there being poor evidence for their efficacy. And today we learnt that the draconian lockdowns imposed on much of western Sydney by Berejiklian was at odds with the advice she received from the state’s chief health officer.
Travel restrictions have also been enforced selectively, with Coalition figures, prominent business figures and celebrities allowed to travel with far greater ease than the rest of us.
That makes the trust that governments demand from citizens when giving themselves additional powers hard to give. The lack of accountability for serious mistakes made during the pandemic — Ruby Princess, Victorian quarantine, aged care, vaccine acquisition — makes it even more difficult.
But there’s no strong community capacity to discuss rights and how governments relate to them. While few may be as thick as the Mt Gambier protester complaining that his Fourteenth Amendment rights were being violated (presumably he’ll dial 911 when he gets COVID), the lack of any constitutional framework for rights — an object of left-right unanimity in the United States; here, bitterly opposed by the right — means Australians don’t even have a language for discussing what freedoms they should have from government control, what the ethical and social bases for such rights might be, and the jurisprudence that explains them.
It means that even assuming good faith among participants, we can’t have any sort of meaningful debate about how rights should be protected against government overreach and what special circumstances like pandemics should require.
And needless to say, there’s very little good faith — from a federal government eager to appeal to extremists, or Nazis and anti-vaxxers looking for new recruits, or media outlets whose only perspective is how to monetise discontent, or progressives eager to demonise people unhappy with government powers.
I think the range of people included in the anti-vax etc., demonstrations is about power, not the supposed attack on personal freedom.
Most of the protesters drive on the left, have had vaccinations for other diseases, have many tattoos, follow instructions at work, co-operate with Centrelink requirements, engulf a range of liquids down their throats, probably smoke and subject their bodies to a range of foreign substances, all without complaint.
I also think the Coalition Politicians, are tagging along, looking for an issue to wedge the Labor party..
Judging by the Vox pops and interviews with “ordinary” members of the protests, they are aggrieved, anxious and vulnerable economically and psychologically, and finding great therapy in being angry. Not being told what to do resonates with people who have never had any power and spend most of their lives at the mercy of authority and the economy. Feeling the power that comes from being in a crowd can be intoxicating, more so for those who feel themselves usually powerless. However, their very marginality and the lack of quality of those purporting to lead them, are more likely to create a dangerous mob than a citizens movement.
Oops, I have a longer comment going to the framing of the debate but it seems to have been caught and put into the waiting for approval loop. Shame about that. No idea what triggered it
Does it contain any curse words or links to other articles?
I did use the term BS in it’s long form but that was all. Was mainly condemning false equivalence between Coalition and Labor that plays to plague on all politicians populism, which is what the Coalition now stands for.
All good Bro, try “shy.t” it might work. I am longing for Scotty to be near me so he can give me a Cobargo handshake. My thoughts would be snap the idiot immediately, but I would be arrested, so I would just laugh as hard as I can and make him feel like a fool.
From time to time I have comments put in the waiting loop too. I can never work out why. They seem to take about 23+ hours to be released.
When the algorithm does that to me, I edit what I guess are the trip points and resend. Can do this 3or 4 times to find out what offended it.
It’s tedious but, fortunately, the algorithm reflects the banal, quotidian paucity of intellect of the tekkies who created it so it is simplicity itself to evade.
Just. Boring.
Good points.
Fear leads to anger, anger to hate, and hate leads to the dark side!
One thinks there is very little organic in these protests, but more astroturfing on large scale to reinforce deep seated radical right libertarian beliefs and tropes, exemplified by the cliched Americanisms shared across the globe.
As observed elsewhere, the spontaneous ‘World Wide Freedom’ protests (English website in Germany; highlighted by ByLine Times UK) demanding ‘freedom for x, y, z,….’, are inextricably linked up with Koch’ian radical right libertarian influence inc. climate/Covid science denial, obstruction of sensible regulation (e.g. on carbon), low taxes/small govt., talk up cliched US ‘freedom & liberty’ etc.; using confected protest with support of media for PR e.g. Fox/NewsCorp acting in unison.
Question, in general, why are some these protests very orderly and civilised in some cities, but very provocative, aggressive and threatening in others?
Depends upon the type of government i.e. maybe an inverse relationship with nativist and/or conservative libertarian governments or those with antipathy towards science, which seem to avoid the negative protests?
However, centre/left governments which follow science and sensible regulation, are constantly harassed and intimidated by the use of street protests aka Koch’ian Tea Party and Capitol Hill for media agitprop?
Some of the protesters fail to understand that ‘obligations’ accompany ‘rights’.
Simply -yes to this.
I think that the thick bloke from Mt Gambier might be ok if he needs emergency assistance.
I stand to be corrected, but I understand that the phone system’s software has been programmed to route (rhymes with boot, not shout) calls dialled as 911 to the 000 number.
However, perhaps a little social natural selection wouldn’t go astray.
Bernard has got much right in this: yes, we shouldn’t charge the unvaccinated for their medical treatment because we do not charge smokers, excessive drinkers, the obese, reckless or excessively speeding drivers for their treatment. That would be real discrimination unlike the “discrimination” the right wing, US influenced protesters complain about when the unvaccinated are barred from visiting hospitals, aged care places, restaurants and stores for other than essential shopping. These idiots cannot grasp that discrimination occurs when some are treated worse than others when there is no difference between them that would justify the different treatment. This is the case with medical treatment but not with being excluded from restaurants or picture theatres, since the relevant different is that the unvaccinated are far more likely to threaten others with a dangerous illness. The idiots can then rave on about invermectin and alternative treatments that might “protect” but their fantasies do not actually show that the difference in treatment is not fully justified by the facts rather than what anti-vaccers and Trump supporters might imagine.
Where Bernard falls down is saying that their is no moral or legal basis for talking about rights in Australia. There is no legal basis but there are moral reasons for claiming protections of important but differing freedoms. These moral reasons can be disputed but they can also be disputed, even if there is a state recognised morality. The error of the protesters in bleating about “freedom” is that they think that any freedom that serves their selfish interests can be claimed as a right. To bleat about the inconvenience of wearing masks under the banner of a denial of freedom is just some person thinking that they are entitled to be free from mask wearing even if that takes away the far more important freedom of others, who want to be from unnecessary threats to their life and wellbeing.
The third issue is Australian citizens being free from the foreign influence of the US. We can do without idiots invoking various amendments to the US constitution to threaten the peace and threaten the health of Australian citizens.
Our transactional PM doesn’t think in scope beyond winning the next election, and think in time beyond addressing the current argument (with the aim of winning the next election). So yesterday’s mumbling to address whatever issue (those evil anti-freedom Labor premiers) is at odds with today’s argument (please get vaccinated so COVID infection rates drop and then everyone will love me).
It’s going to be a wild ride during a confusing election campaign when Morrison contradicts himself minute by minute, as different issues are discussed – and he has no idea why people won’t trust a word he says.