
Donald Trump has come out swinging in the second US presidential debate, which is just concluding as we go to press, saying that if elected, he would appoint a special prosecutor to investigate “Hillary’s situation” with regard to allegations of disappeared emails and confidential documents. Clinton hit back, accusing Trump of being unfit for the office of president over the Access Hollywood tapes released on Friday — hot-mic recordings in which Trump talked about his ability to grope women with impunity because of his fame, using the phrase “we’re great because we are good” as a debate motif.
After a polite opening exchange in which both candidates laid out some general stuff, and a direct question from moderator Anderson Cooper as to whether Trump had condoned “sexual assault”, Trump repeatedly denied it.
Trump hit back with an attack on Clinton’s use of a secret email server, and the alleged hiding of 33,000 emails on a private server. But he nearly came off the rails trying to counter multiple accusations from Clinton. After a testy head-spinning exchange on who Michelle Obama liked the most, Hillary Clinton gave a very specific response to a question on Obamacare, with a series of points about reforming America’s healthcare system, while Trump wandered into generalities and, when questioned by Anderson Cooper on specific points, began to ramble badly.
Thus it was that the debate took a turn different to that which many people had expected — with Clinton attempting to show Trump up as hopelessly scattered and confused.
By the end of the first part of the debate, you would have to say that that plan was working well, with Trump taking another long ramble around the question of Islamophobia “…and everyone knew the bombs were there in that San Bernardino apartment, my God, and we just want Muslims to say something when we see something…”
What happens now? However the debate is judged — and it seems most likely to be scored a draw, or another pro forma win for Hillary — Trump’s core supporters are unfazed by the latest scandal. They think Hillary is a murderer and into lesbian S&M, and that Trump’s sexual threats amount to “locker room talk”. They won’t budge. But he may have lost right-wing Republicans along for the ride, and independents, and this performance won’t get them back.
Aaaaaaaand as we hit the deadline, with a half hour to go, the thing was continuing as it started — with Clinton chipping in an on-point argument about Trump’s possible influence by Russia, and Trump going into a long explanation of his taxes.

“They think Hillary is a murderer ”
By some accounts, being close to the Clintons reduces life expectancy.
Donald Trump. Whatever. The Trump fiasco is seems unbelievable. What did anyone expect? How did the Republicans let this happen? Or why? This can’t be a mistake. What really worries me is how everyone is reacting like preprogrammed muppets and I’m not seeing or reading much (any?) discussion about how or why he’s there in the first place. So now it’s gone so far that Republicans are worried that they’re other electoral representatives will lose votes now too? Like that was never going to happen because of Trump anyway? Perhaps the Democrats are getting handed the government for at least the next two years (obviously the presidency for the next 4) because somewhere there is some belief that it’s going to be very very bad for them. I mean what could possibly go wrong? LMFAO! Another global financial collapse? One from which recovery is impossible? A continued breakdown in in foreign relations? Heck, seems the Obama administration seems hell bent on pushing Putin to his limits. After 8 years of Obama’s presidency we’re seeing escalating racial tensions and shootings and shit and what’s really causing it? I ain’t pointing a finger at anyone or anything because I don’t see anyone or anything fixing it. Good luck Hillary. The right will rise from the chaos like never before. Is it already happening in Europe?
Oooops, I’ve flown off into lala land. Back to reality. Boooo Donald Trump, boooo.
Yikes, I didn’t read before posting, what? No edit? Great, now I look like a right Donald!
It seems that things might not go better after some coke.
Hah!
Trump called Bill a rapist (shot of Bill), accused Hillary of attacking his victims (shot of victims) and Hillary said nothing about Bill or them in reply. It hardly seems possible, but from that moment the tape with Billy Bush issue was nullified. I thought Trump went on to win the rest of the debate on points, partly because Clinton was ill at ease throughout while he grew in confidence.
This debate may swing no votes. But meanwhile the text below said Clinton leads by 4 points nationally. Four points! After that weekend? Even so, the Democrats are probably content. The tape did its job of smothering up the banker speech stuff. But Trump used TV brilliantly to irrevocably focus in people’s minds the only relevant aspect of Bill’s sexual history – that Hillary attacked his victims and is unable to deny it.
I feel sick.
Seems to me that if the Americans had a choice between Trump,Hillary and Dead Rat on a Stick the latter could not be discounted.
…so the Yanks are Pratchett’s dwarves?